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At The Second Voice, we explore the inner conversations leaders rarely say out loud. In this solo episode, Luisa explores how every leader has a private boardroom they never talk about (not with their team, not with their mentors, sometimes not even with themselves). In that boardroom sit three voices: the doubter, the driver, and the decider. The question is.... who’s running yours? If this episode resonated, it is likely because the second voice is active in your leadership too. Hosted by Luisa Hogan, leadership resilience strategist and founder of Vermelho Consulting. Luisa works with founders, executives, and senior leaders who carry real responsibility and want to lead with steadiness, clarity, and self-trust under pressure. Her work focuses on nervous system regulation, leadership identity, and the inner dialogue that shapes how leaders show up when things are hard. Work With Luisa If this episode sparked reflection, here are ways to go deeper: • Leadership resilience workshops and advisory • Keynotes and curated live experiences • The Steady Leadership framework and private sessions Learn more at: vermelho.com.au A Note From Whisper & Thread The Second Voice is proudly supported by Whisper & Thread. Whisper & Thread creates intimate apparel embroidered with quiet, internal messages designed to interrupt negative self-talk. Each piece carries a reminder on the inside. Not performative. Not loud. Just for you. Because leadership self-talk does not start in the boardroom. And confidence is built in the moments no one sees. Explore Whisper & Thread at: whisperandthread.com Stay Connected Follow along and join the conversation: • Instagram: @thesecondvoicepodcast • Instagram: @vermelho_consulting • Instagram: @whisperandthread Subscribe, rate, and review The Second Voice to help more leaders find these conversations. 00:00 Introduction to the Mental Boardroom 00:22 Exploring Internal Dialogues 00:47 The Brain's Role in Decision Making 02:12 Functions of Doubter, Driver, and Decider 03:20 Managing the Doubter's Influence 04:47 The Driver's Push for Ambition 06:08 Deciding Between Doubt and Drive 07:01 Should I listen to the doubter or the driver within me when making career decisions? 10:12 Impact of Stress on Decision Making 12:14 The Power of Calm in Leadership 13:54 Choosing Voices for Growth 14:47 Navigating New Opportunities 15:11 Conclusion: Leadership and Challenges