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What would you do if you walked into a 150-year-old company and they told you the brand stands for… a color? Watch this and learn the playbook. Subscribe for weekly CMO strategies → If you’re building your marketing career and want to learn how the best brand leaders actually drive transformation inside massive organizations, this episode is your masterclass. ✅ The brand turnaround playbook you can steal from Lego’s near-bankruptcy ✅ How to redefine brand purpose when your company only knows “what color we are” ✅ The empathy research (11 countries, 11,000 people) that proves feelings drive revenue ✅ Why 43% of customers leave companies that lack empathy — and how you can fix it ✅ How co-creation (not top-down mandates) makes your transformation actually stick Whether you’re a marketing manager aiming for the C-suite or a brand strategist trying to make your organization more customer-centric, Conny Kalcher’s career is the roadmap. She spent 33 years at Lego — including leading through the company’s near-bankruptcy and historic turnaround — and then took on one of the biggest brand transformation challenges in financial services as Chief Customer Officer at Zurich Insurance. When Conny arrived at Zurich, she asked what the brand stood for. The answer she got: “We are blue.” From that starting point, she built a new brand purpose, created 33 measurable customer experience standards, and launched a groundbreaking empathy initiative with Stanford professor Jamil Zaki. The results every aspiring CMO should study: brand value up 35%, millions of new customers, and an entire global workforce learning that empathy is a trainable, measurable business driver. But what makes this episode especially valuable for your career is the HOW. Conny doesn’t just share what she did — she reveals the leadership framework for driving change when you’re new to a culture, how to earn CEO alignment without losing your creative vision, and why understanding your customer deeply enough to challenge your own assumptions is the skill that separates good marketers from great CMOs. Scroll down to the timestamps to jump straight to the moment that will change how you think about customer experience: why the first question should never be “what’s your policy number.” TIMESTAMPS 00:00 Super Bowl ads — what marketers should notice 03:40 Why insurance relies on humor (and what’s changing) 05:53 Leaving Lego after 33 years — career pivot lessons 09:32 How to stay open to unexpected opportunities 14:52 Inside Lego’s near-bankruptcy crisis 22:06 Customer research that saved the brand 30:42 Walking into Zurich Insurance on day one 33:56 “We are blue” — redefining brand purpose from scratch 40:06 How co-creation builds an army of supporters 44:08 The results: brand value, retention, growth 45:19 Empathy as a measurable business driver 50:35 How to train your team in empathy 55:44 Rapid fire — personal insights Want more frameworks and strategies from the world’s top marketing leaders? Hit subscribe and turn on notifications so you never miss an episode. ABOUT THE GUEST Conny Kalcher is the Group Chief Customer Officer at Zurich Insurance, overseeing brand, marketing, customer experience, and data analytics across 200+ markets. Before Zurich, she spent 33 years at Lego, leading through the company’s legendary turnaround. Her career is a blueprint for aspiring CMOs who want to drive transformation at scale. #TheCMOPodcast #BrandTransformation #CustomerExperience