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Links to Connect: https://www.phccweb.org/phccconnect20... To Have me podcast or speak: www.dennistheapprentice.com To Learn more about Brian: www.provengrowthguide.com Why is it getting harder every year to find good people in the trades? Plumbing and HVAC contractors—why is it getting harder to find good people? In this episode, Brian Harding breaks down the real causes of the skilled labor shortage, the trades vs college divide, and what contractors must change in hiring, training, and retention to build profitable, sustainable businesses. If you're tired of working for free and want to turn a profit while building the company you once dreamed of, this conversation shows where the trades are headed—and how to adapt. In this podcast, Brian breaks down the real issues behind the skilled labor shortage — from why fewer young people are entering plumbing, HVAC, and electrical work to how contractors are being forced to rethink hiring, training, and retention. This conversation goes beyond headlines and gets into what’s actually happening on the ground: changing attitudes toward work, the role parents and schools play, and why the trades are still one of the most misunderstood career paths today. If you’re a contractor, business owner, or someone thinking about a career in the trades, this episode will give you a clearer picture of where the industry is headed — and what needs to change. Topics covered include: *Why fewer people are choosing skilled trades *The real causes of the workforce shortage *Trades vs college: what’s broken in the system *How contractors can adapt moving forward Guest: Brian Harding Event: PHCC CONNECT Timestamps: 00:00 – Why the skilled trades are struggling to attract workers 01:12 – The perception problem around trade careers 02:45 – College vs trades: how parents influence career choices 04:30 – Why young people don’t see trades as a long-term option 06:10 – The role of schools and education systems 08:05 – What contractors are doing wrong with hiring 10:22 – Training, apprenticeships, and retention challenges 12:40 – How contractors need to adapt in 2025 and beyond 14:55 – What the future of the trades actually looks like