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What is mental health in Hong Kong? Two board-certified music therapists, Nicole Chow and Vivian Chan, break it down through personal stories of cancer survival, divorce, COVID reflection, and cultural stigma in this debut episode of Echoes Among Trees: Reclaiming Our Inner Voice. Hosted by Jerome Bautista (forest therapy guide) and Vivian Chan, co-founders of Sacred Space Therapy & Wellness—a holistic mental health therapies and wellness services practice in Hong Kong—we explore music therapy Hong Kong, forest therapy Hong Kong, and destigmatizing mental health beyond labels and pills. Discover how mental health is awareness of being "out of tune," not broken; a spectrum we're all on; and a journey of vulnerability, community, and inner work. From Nicole's cancer journey at MSKCC and Sichuan earthquake relief to Vivian's post-divorce rediscovery of music's healing power, we unpack misconceptions, cultural barriers (like "therapy means something's severely wrong"), and practical paths forward. Perfect for anyone seeking music therapy in Hong Kong, holistic mental health support, or simply a safe space to reflect on emotional well-being. A big thank you to Nicole for lending her voice to our podcast. If you'd like to follow her, you can check out her IG (@littlevoicemt) or go to the Hong Kong Music Therapy Association's Site: https://www.musictherapyhk.org/ Key Insights & Timestamps (1:00:00 runtime): 01:00 – Aloha welcome & creating sacred space 02:15 – Hosts & guests intro: Jerome Bautista, Nicole Chow (NYU MA Music Therapy, cancer survivor), Vivian Chan (President, World Federation of Music Therapy) 05:30 – Nicole's story: Cancer, NYU internship at MSKCC, facing "demons head-on" 09:49 – Vivian's journey: Divorce, existential questions, music as companion to therapy 23:11 – Mental health definition: "Awareness your instrument is out of tune" (Nicole); lifelong spectrum, not labels (Vivian) 32:09 – Cultural stigma in Hong Kong/Asia: Resistance to therapy for kids, "males can't cry" 44:18 – Music therapy challenges: Referral gaps, insurance, "one-session fix" myths 52:10 – Mental Notes: Self-care (yoga, running), 3 words ("search within"), guest dreams 57:39 – Closing wisdom: "We're all walking each other home" (Ram Dass); "It's okay to not be okay" Key Quotes to Remember: "Mental health is having awareness that when my instrument (body) is out of tune... figure out ways to retune it." – Nicole Chow "Mental health is a spectrum we're all on... no shame in professional help." – Vivian Chan "Find strength in vulnerability—ask for help; community will surprise you." – Jerome Bautista Ready to reclaim your inner voice? Subscribe for weekly conversations on destigmatizing mental health, music therapy Hong Kong, forest therapy Hong Kong, and holistic wellness. Work with us at Sacred Space Therapy & Wellness: 🌿 Website: www.sacredspacetherapyandwellness.com 📱 Instagram: @sacredspacetherapyandwellness 📘 Facebook: Sacred Space Therapy & Wellness 📺 YouTube: @SacredSpaceTherapyandWellness ✉️ Email: sacredspacetherapyandwellness@gmail.com Producer: Ken Fung (IG: @wkenfung) Leave a ⭐ review, share your takeaway below, or DM us your mental health questions for future episodes! #MentalHealthHongKong #MusicTherapyHongKong #ForestTherapyHongKong #DestigmatizeMentalHealth #HolisticMentalHealth #EchoesAmongTrees #ReclaimYourVoice #MusicTherapy #TraumaInformed #HongKongWellness #MentalHealthAwareness #InnerHealing