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This is a brief comparison between the DSM & Humboldt Black Clouds and the Bogner Ecstasy Red (big box version) pedal. I start by comparing a general tone I think is close on both pedals and then go back and forth changing knobs on each so you can hear what each knob does. I finish by showing how they sound stacked together. The Bogner Ecstasy Red I think is a bit thicker, though not by much, but definitely feels more touch-sensitive. The Black Clouds definitely has a lot more gains, and it's hard to get clean - the Ecstasy Red has more clean room at the bottom of its gain range. The only thing the Bogner Ecstasy Red lacks is that it doesn't have enough volume and treble if I feed it into my amp's effects return, while the Black Clouds (as well as DSM & Humboldt's Silver Linings) sounds excellent used as a proper preamp. I used my Epiphone ES-339 Pro on the bridge pickup with a White Fang pick, played through an Orange CR60 on the clean channel. I recorded it with my Samsung Note 10+. I don't do this often so I haven't upgraded my setup, but hopefully this can still prove helpful since I haven't seen many videos of the Black Clouds especially.