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Ray Peat Archive: https://RaymondPeat.com Full Interview: • Ray Peat: The Sugar–Cholesterol Myth, PUFA... Transcript: When people eat white sugar — even just a piece of fruit — that’s easy to do. But who just sits there and just eats white sugar? (Obviously they have not heard of Genevieve but anyway…) Well no, but you can put a whole lot of sugar in your coffee, in your lemonade. Sugar becomes addictive and that’s why the desire of it increases and you want more and more. I think the fattening effect of sugar that happens is because it is in cake and cookies and all these fattening foods that have such a high glycaemic index besides just the sugar. It increases your ability to burn fat by 30–50%, so you can eat much more without getting fat. Of the sucrose, as long as you stay away from the white rice and white flour? Yeah. So cake and candy, that’s worse for you than a fruit pie that you added a bunch of sugar to but the crust was a whole wheat crust — that would be okay? Well even the grains and all the starches and beans — all of those starchy carbohydrates — they all have a higher glycaemic index than fruit, honey, and white sugar. So mostly you don’t even put white sugar, unless you put it in your coffee or lemonade or whatever… Or your ice cream. What about ice cream? That’s mixed mostly with fat. Is that bad? Well no, because there is no starch there. And if we are talking about the glycaemic index and raising your sugar and causing obesity… Well, I can eat plenty of ice cream but as far as calories goes… Right, it’s the fat. It’s the fat in the cream. But yeah, if you decided you were going to eat sugar but not mixed with any carbohydrates… I eat fresh fruit and I make lemonade and I drink orange juice and I… Well, I believe in fructose and I think that’s good. When I drink fruit juice, I drink it without any added sucrose but I dilute it with half water so I don’t get even that much fructose. I know there can be like 600 calories in sometimes a quart of juice that has no added sugar… The other thing is that when you have a fruit sugar or just any sugar, you should have it balanced with a fat and a protein so you slow release the sugar, so your liver can store it, so you can use it for longer, rather than a huge spike of sugar that then your pancreas pumps out insulin and then it gets stored as fat. So if you have chocolate that’s a good way to have it? Well, chocolate doesn’t have the protein. Maybe chocolate with a glass of milk.