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Measuring Student Emotions with Neuroscience: AgileBrain with Dr. Bill Nolen & Margot Moses What if schools could measure and understand student emotions as precisely as academic performance? Join host Bridget Johnson with Dr. Bill Nolen, Chief Scientist at Leading Indicator Systems, and Margot Moses, Senior Advisor for Student Wellbeing, for a groundbreaking conversation about AgileBrain—a revolutionary neuroscience-based platform transforming how schools support student emotional health and motivation. This episode explores how emotional measurement moves beyond traditional wellbeing assessments to provide actionable insights that help every student thrive. Featured Guests: Dr. Bill Nolen serves as Chief Scientist and co-founder of Leading Indicator Systems, developers of AgileBrain. With a doctorate in Psychometrics from Boston University (where he earned all three degrees and taught across multiple colleges), Bill has spent decades designing assessments that measure how people think, feel, and act. His fascinating career includes working on the original Apple Macintosh team, where he helped design user experiences that shaped modern computing. Bill's work bridges academic psychology, neuropsychology, and practical application, bringing the emotional framework developed by JD Pinkus to life through rigorous assessment design and development. He's passionate about understanding what drives human decisions and believes AgileBrain reveals individual superpowers rather than deficits. Margot Moses brings nearly 30 years of independent school leadership to her role as Senior Advisor for Student Wellbeing at Leading Indicator Systems. Having held senior positions at Carolina Day School, The Madeira School, The Holderness School, and The Breck School, Margot understands firsthand the challenges student life professionals face. A Klingenstein Center graduate from Teachers College, Columbia University, she designs and implements wellbeing programs that integrate emotional measurement and neuroscience into educational practice, collaborating with schools nationwide to pilot innovative approaches and expand resources supporting student wellness. Key Topics: • How AgileBrain uses rapid image presentation (no words) to measure emotions in just 3.5 minutes • Why emotion and cognition aren't opposites—they're essential partners in learning and decision-making • The neuroscience breakthrough: Antonio Damasio's research showing emotions are fundamental to human functioning • Moving from qualitative wellbeing surveys to quantitative emotional measurement • How schools can use emotional data to create targeted interventions and resource allocation • Understanding the "Big Five" emotional motivators: achievement, connection, growth, power, and significance • Real-world applications: from advisory programs to crisis response and student support • Why measuring emotions helps identify student superpowers, not just deficits • The difference between qualitative self-reporting and neuroscience-based emotional assessment • How AgileBrain provides actionable insights for deans, advisors, counselors, and administrators Visit the Deans' Roundtable: https://deansroundtable.org LinkedIn: / bridget-johnson510 Email: bridget@deansroundtable.org Student Life Assessment Program: https://deansroundtable.org/k-12-stud... Learn more about AgileBrain: https://www.agilebrain.com #studentwellbeing #emotionalintelligence #neuroscience #studentaffairs #k12education #independentschools #studentlife #schoolleadership #educationalinnovation #wellbeingassessment #studentsupport #deansroundtable Timestamps: 00:00 Welcome to The Deans' Roundtable 00:21 Introduction: Neuroscience Meets Education 01:09 Meet Dr. Bill Nolen and Margot Moses 02:18 Personal Journeys into Emotional Wellbeing Work 03:38 Bill's Academic Background and Apple Macintosh Experience 07:00 What is AgileBrain and How Does It Work? 07:47 The Three-Minute Image-Based Assessment Experience 08:48 Identifying Superpowers vs. Deficits Through Emotional Measurement 10:15 Why Traditional Self-Reporting Falls Short in Measuring Emotions 14:30 Understanding the "Big Five" Emotional Motivators Framework 19:00 The Neuroscience Behind AgileBrain: Antonio Damasio's Research 23:45 How Schools Can Use Emotional Data for Targeted Interventions 28:20 Real-World Applications: Advisory Programs and Student Support 33:50 Moving from Qualitative to Quantitative Wellbeing Measurement 38:15 Case Studies: Schools Successfully Using AgileBrain 43:20 Privacy, Ethics, and Student Data Protection Considerations 47:50 Building Emotional Literacy and Self-Awareness in Students 51:10 Lightning Round: Book Recommendations and Personal Insights 53:44 Coffee, Tea, or Something Stronger? 54:28 One Word for Emotional Breakthroughs 55:27 Final Thoughts: Emotion and Cognition as Partners