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When Derek signed with Reach Records, he instantly got access to touring in front of thousands, but the crowd wasn’t there to see him, they were there for the label’s stars. That’s the part artists miss, the label machine can scale you faster, but it comes with tradeoffs. In this clip from Episode 4 of You Can’t Say That In Church, Derek Minor breaks down how labels fund projects, why masters become collateral when they take the risk, and how catalog ownership becomes leverage once you build enough value to borrow against it or sell it. Independent or major, the only way to lose is moving without a plan. If you don’t know what the next 5–10 years looks like, you’re gonna get played either way. Watch Episode 4 (full episode): • Episode 4 | Talent Won't Save You All lines provided by @SayDatPod FOLLOW DEREK AND PARRIS Derek Minor, / thederekminor Parris Chariz, / parrischariz Podcast, / saydatpod SUBSCRIBE Derek Minor on YouTube, @thederekminor Parris Chariz on YouTube, @parrischariz