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We often talk about building houses, but we rarely discuss the nightmare of leaving them. In this episode of Built on Blues, Graeme sits down with Barry Gordon, CEO of Gordon’s Downsizing and Estate Services, to deconstruct the machine he built to handle the one thing every homeowner dreads: moving a lifetime of stuff. Barry traces his company's evolution from a 1950s livestock auction house to a fully integrated real estate and transition service. The secret isn't just selling the property; it’s mastering the "gap services"—the messy, complex project management between deciding to move and handing over the keys. Barry reveals how his team coordinates everything from packing underwear and selling 1967 Dodge Daytonas to managing estate executors and closing the sale. We dig deep into the logistics of managing high-touch transitions for seniors, how Gordon's uses online auctions to minimize landfill waste, and why they refuse to let their listing agents work for buyers to avoid conflicts of interest. Barry also shares his perspective on AI in a human-centric industry and why "project management" is the hidden value proposition that most businesses overlook. If you want to know how to monetize complexity and build a bulletproof system, this episode is for you. Connect with Barry Gordon & Gordon’s Downsizing: Website: gogordons.com Spotify Chapter Breakdown (00:00) Introduction: The Nightmare of Moving a Lifetime of Stuff(00:37) From Livestock to Living Rooms: The 1950s Origin Story(03:12) The Pivot: Why Auctions Lost to the MLS & The Birth of "Gap Services"(04:52) Finding Treasure in the Garage: The $141k Dodge Daytona Story(06:45) The Integrated Model: Financing the Transition for Executors(09:53) Step-by-Step: Curating a Solution for a 3,000 sq. ft. House(12:48) The Online Auction Advantage: 98% Sell Rate & Zero Waste(13:54) Eliminating Conflict: Why Listing Agents Shouldn't Represent Buyers(16:10) Logistics & Tools: How to Ensure the Packers Don't Beat the Auction Team(18:46) AI in a Human Business: Automations vs. The Personal Touch(21:38) The "Silver Tsunami" and Future Growth(23:12) The Secret Sauce: Why Project Management is Worth More Than the Sale(25:39) Barry’s Advice for Entrepreneurs: Complexity is Opportunity