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In this very first episode of The art of co-existence, Daphne is joined by Diane van der Marel, a Dutch artist, photographer and impact investor. Diane talks about her strong connection to nature, her artistic practice and she shares a very personal story about letting go, grief and nature’s ability to connect on a deeper level. By observing the wild spirit of her garden, Diane has learned to trust that a healthy, composted soil grows strong ecosystems. She applies this metaphor not only in her garden, but also to understand the way we relate to societies, economies and ourselves. Make sure to listen all the way to the end, because she also announces the launch of a very exciting project on her land, starting in spring 2026 - for more information give @oud.terranova a follow on Instagram. Content note: This episode contains a personal story about mental illness and suicide, which some listeners may find distressing. Diane’s inspiration: 👩🎨 Anaïs Lopez 📚 Braiding Sweetgrass by Robin Wall Kimmerer 🐚 Diane’s souvenir for you: try to really connect with something which is alive. Observe with all your senses: your eyes, ears, smell and touch. Set a timer if you like, but just observe for at least 15 to 20 minutes and see what happens. Hosted by: Daphne Frühmann Editing: Axel Frühmann Music: Mark Oomen Instagram: @theartofcoexistence An Ourcelium Publishers podcast