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In this episode of Beyond the Syllabus, Aidan McDowell sits down with Dr. Julie Williams, Deputy Superintendent of Fayetteville Public Schools, for a wide-ranging conversation about how schools can honor student strengths, expand real-world learning, and design environments that truly serve the whole child. Dr. Williams shares the story behind Fayetteville’s middle school choice programs, including outdoor adventure and science-focused pathways that give students hands-on, interest-driven learning anchored in community experiences. From leveraging natural ecosystems to tapping into world-class arts and culture in Northwest Arkansas, she outlines what it looks like when a district builds programs around passion, inquiry, and authentic engagement. The conversation also explores: The origins and impact of Fayetteville’s student choice model How outdoor and experiential learning shape confidence and curiosity The district’s hybrid virtual school and why real-time teacher connection matters Human-centered school design and the need to rethink schedules, staffing, and instructional models The future of personalized pathways, proficiency-based progression, and AI-supported teaching Dr. Williams brings decades of experience, deep systems thinking, and an unwavering belief in student potential. Her insights highlight what’s possible when districts embrace curiosity, flexibility, and whole-child well-being as core design principles. Key Moments 02:13 How the middle school choice program was born 04:42 Why passion and inquiry drive deeper student engagement 06:58 Early challenges in shifting to performance-based learning 09:11 Building teacher confidence through small, meaningful wins 11:27 How student autonomy transformed classroom culture 14:03 Community partnerships that expanded real-world learning 17:25 Supporting teachers as designers, not deliverers 19:54 Measuring success beyond traditional assessments 22:41 What families noticed first about the new approach 25:12 Julie’s advice for districts launching a choice program Connect with Guest: LinkedIn: / drjulierwilliams Connect with Us: Host’s LinkedIn: / aidan-mcdowell Website: https://uniqlearn.co/ LinkedIn: / uniqlearn If this episode sparked new thinking, please follow, rate, and review Beyond the Syllabus on your favorite podcast platform. It helps us grow and bring more meaningful conversations your way.