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In this episode of Rethink, Jim sits down with Shawn Johnson, pastor of Red Rocks Church and author of Attacking Anxiety. Shawn and Jim talk about some of the mental health struggles with associated with being a pastor, connecting during one of the hardest moments in their life, and tips for anyone struggling with Anxiety. 0:00 Introduction 4:14 Loneliness 6:40 Leading as a broken person 11:58 The moment things changed 15:18 When your leaders put you on the bench 22:30 Identity crisis 23:57 Stories from Counseling 27:57 Whats different now? 30:23 Whats one thing for people dealing with anxiety and depression? Connect with Shawn: / shawnjohnsonrrc / shawnjohnsonrrc / shawnjohnsonrrc Book Links: Attacking Anxiety (Audible) https://amzn.to/3vnls89 Attacking Anxiety (Paperback) https://amzn.to/3Ls9Y8R The Rethink podcast aims to inspire men to step up and challenge them to take a leap of faith to become better people. Join us weekly as we Rethink what it means to be a man in today's world and discuss tangible ways to chase after authentic manhood by having real conversations with real people about real things. Join the conversation in the comments below! ⬇️ SUBSCRIBE and get notified when a new episode drops. ⬇️ https://www.youtube.com/c/RethinkPodc... Have an idea for future episodes? Email us rethink@flatironschurch.com Twitter: @JimBurgen / jimburgen Facebook: / jim.burgen Instagram: @JimBurgen / jimburgen