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In this episode of Rooted, student co-hosts Alex, Jaden, and Savron speak with Scott McClure, a product management leader and advisor whose career spans Fortune 500 firms and early-stage startups across printing, data storage, and data security. Scott explains his core lens for value creation: the difference between features and benefits, and the discipline of asking “what’s the benefit and who will pay for it?” The conversation centers on customer discovery and market validation, including Scott’s blunt but useful reminder that founders must listen more than they pitch. He shares a pivotal case from StorageTek where customer insights justified continued investment in enterprise tape products and helped surface an early “data security” market need, alongside a lesson on delaying launch rather than shipping an incomplete solution. The group connects these ideas to agribusiness, discussing how farmers already operate as entrepreneurs and how technology can create “base hits” by lowering costs and improving decisions without forcing farms to redesign their entire workflow. Savron adds an international perspective from Uzbekistan, prompting a discussion of being a change agent inside large institutions and the importance of using data and soft skills to persuade internal “customers.” The episode closes with practical advice on early capital strategies, non-dilutive funding, local entrepreneurship resources, and two takeaways for students: listen to the customer, and be willing to jump, but do it with data. Chapters: Welcome + introductions: Alex, Jaden, Savron, and guest Scott McClure Scott’s path: engineering to product management and “entrepreneurship within companies” Product manager as “business owner” and the bridge between sales and engineering Value creation across industries: skills vs industry knowledge Core mindset: solve problems customers can’t solve today Customer discovery in plain terms: listen more than talk; avoid pitching your solution Validation tactics: talk to many people, ask open-ended questions, always ask “who else?” Pivot story at StorageTek: finding what customers would pay more for and investing accordingly Building a viable solution: why shipping incomplete products can destroy first impressions Organizational reality: alignment and top-down support to prioritize product viability over deadlines Connecting the lessons to food/ag: retention, switching costs, and trust in suppliers Farmers as entrepreneurs: multiple hats, risk, and uncontrollable variables like weather and markets Tech for agriculture: “home runs vs base hits” and lowering cost without overhauling workflows Drones and sensors as practical innovation: better data, less guesswork, more accessible tools Global perspective: Uzbekistan’s evolving entrepreneurship ecosystem and innovation constraints Soft skills + influence: persuading internal stakeholders, diverse teams, StrengthsFinder Capital basics: bootstrapping, debt vs equity, non-dilutive grants, and local resources (CSU Ventures, Innosphere, Rockies Venture Club) Closing advice: “listen to the customer” and “don’t be afraid to jump, but do it with data”