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We're joined by Palestinian novelist, writer and activist Susan Abulhawa, political scientist John Mearsheimer and Dr. Dhiaa Daoud, MD, an emergency medicine physician currently aboard a humanitarian flotilla to Gaza, joining healthcare workers, journalists, and international parliament members to break the siege and shed light on the ongoing humanitarian crisis. For the full discussion, please join us on Patreon at - / patreon-full-dr-140709512 00:00 Dr. Dhiaa Daoud joins show from flotilla to talk to Susan Abulhawa and Katie 02:20 Doctor's Motivations for joining flotilla – genocide, 80 yrs occupation, duty as doctor to help his people 05:10 Family trauma and horror stories from Gaza underline scale of dehumanization 07:00 99% of casualties children – story of 5-month-old baby gasping for air and dying alone 10:00 Surgeries without anesthesia, kids screaming for days – total collapse of medical infrastructure 14:20 Flotilla aims to break silence and show solidarity 16:37 Scenes of mass casualties – body parts in bags, burned infants, complete breakdown of reality 20:25 Daoud loses faith in humanity but praises heroic Gaza medics working under threat and blockade 24:30 Flotilla under drone surveillance, expecting abduction despite being in international waters 26:20 Health system so destroyed he declined Gaza trip because there was “nothing to work with” 30:25 Plea for world to act if flotilla is attacked 33:30 Susan Abulhawa on Oct 7 propaganda cycle continues – lies like “beheaded babies” still weaponized 34:30 Susan on Israel’s inconsistent death toll narrative 37:40 John Mearsheimer joins and says Israeli firepower killed civilians too 41:10 Breakout inevitable from Gaza concentration camp on Oct. 7 and Israel bears major blame 42:50 Susan demands complete, detailed picture of what happened that day, not vague narratives 44:20 Who is called “civilian” depends on politics – Nova victims labeled civilians, Lebanese are not 46:35 Framing as “war” benefits Israel, obscuring genocide 47:15 Mearsheimer: Israel caught off-guard like 1973, chaotic overreaction with massive firepower 51:07 Commission needed to investigate Oct 7 but Netanyahu blocking it to avoid blame 53:30 Myth of Israeli “victory” – in reality military overstretched, PTSD, dependence on US 58:30 Netanyahu pushing US into war with Iran, desperate for escalation 59:25 Israeli society held together by contempt for Palestinians, plagued by deep internal divisions 1:00:37 Genocide as exhausting, society’s sadism revealed – celebration of atrocities online 1:02:01 Palestinians no longer believe coexistence possible after witnessing global complicity 1:03:10 Trauma deepened by world cheering genocide, a betrayal they’ll never forget 1:04:05 Holocaust was hidden, Israel’s atrocities are proudly livestreamed – “spectacle of evil” 01:05:32 US openly backing genocide perpetrators 1:06:57 Public opinion opposes genocide but leaders ignore it 1:07:37 Israel has Trump and other presidents tightly controlled 1:08:55 How such a small state manipulates a superpower 01:11:10 Lobbying strength unmatched in U.S. history 01:13:47 What motivates Jewish zionists/ rest of interview / patreon-full-dr-140709512 Susan Abulhawa is a Palestinian-American writer and activist whose novels, including Mornings in Jenin and Against the Loveless World, have been translated into dozens of languages and widely acclaimed. She is also the founder of Playgrounds for Palestine and the Palestine Writes literary festival. John J. Mearsheimer is the R. Wendell Harrison Distinguished Service Professor of Political Science at the University of Chicago and a leading realist scholar of international relations. A West Point graduate and former U.S. Air Force officer, he is the author of numerous influential works on U.S. foreign policy and power politics. Dr. Dhiaa Daoud is a Palestinian-American emergency physician and humanitarian. His work in Gaza during the 2024 war inspired him to found the Doctors for Hope Foundation, which provides medical care and rebuilds essential infrastructure. He is currently aboard a humanitarian flotilla to Gaza. **Please support The Katie Halper Show ** For bonus content, exclusive interviews, to support independent media & to help make this program possible, please join us on Patreon - / thekatiehalpershow Get your Katie Halper Show Merch here! https://katiehalper.myspreadshop.com/all Follow Katie on Twitter: https://x.com/kthalps Follow Katie on Instagram: / kthalps Follow Katie on TikTok: / kthalps