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Reverend Kenneth Meshoe has had a front-row seat to South Africa’s entire democratic era — from 1994 to the 7th administration. In this conversation we get blunt about what’s broken: leadership, responsibility, open borders, investor confidence, and why the ACDP hasn’t translated “values most people agree with” into votes. IN THIS EPISODE • Mandela’s reconciliation lesson — and why leaders abandoned it • Clean cities = investor confidence (and why SA looks uninvestable) • Rights vs responsibilities: why Meshoe says SA forgot the second half • Ramaphosa’s “no distinction” line: citizens vs illegal immigration pressure • Sovereignty argument: borders, enforcement, and public services • Why ACDP refused the GNU (and why DA gets accused of chasing perks) • Phala Phala and “equality before the law” why trust collapsed • Why ACDP didn’t grow: “moral issues” vs bread-and-butter politics • Pro-business stance: red tape, investment, jobs and the Rwanda comparison • BEE: ACDP’s sunset clause argument (25 years) • 2026 local elections: money, coalition bargaining, and voter accountability • Expropriation: why ACDP rejects “without compensation” Don’t just complain get involved, share this conversation, and subscribe for more State of the Nation insights. Get Daily Updates: @PoliticalInsiderZA LIVE EVENT TICKETS R550 ex VAT The Tryst Kramerville (6 March 2026) with Helen Zille Tickets: https://sona.co.za/index.php/events/ Follow @sonacoza on TikTok, Instagram, X, and Facebook Produced by Stream In Studios – https://www.streamin.co.za The State Of the Nation is Proudly Sponsored by Pace Car Rental https://www.pacecarrental.co.za/ Use Code : SONA for a discount today!