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Is it enough to just “have a good sermon”? Or does who you are behind the pulpit matter just as much as what you say? In this episode, Kyle Papineau and Don Sanderson dive into the relationship between the message and the messenger. They unpack how Scripture gives us authority—but intimacy with God gives us access to that authority, and why pastors can’t afford to shortcut study, prayer, or character if they want to faithfully feed the flock. If you’re a pastor, preacher, Bible college student, or someone sensing a call to ministry, this conversation will help you: • Build healthier study rhythms • Develop a high view of Scripture • Guard your heart from personality-driven, copy-and-paste preaching • Align your life with the message you preach ⸻ In This Episode: 0:00 – Scripture, authority & intimacy with God 0:33 – Welcome to They Call Me Pastor 1:15 – Why “raw” pastoral conversations matter 1:25 – Social media preaching vs. weighty preaching 2:12 – Scripture gives authority, intimacy gives access 3:06 – Don’s devotional & sermon prep rhythm 4:55 – Kyle’s prep process & early Sunday grind 7:45 – Expository vs topical & making disciples 9:00 – Hearing God vs chasing every “word” 11:31 – What matters more: the message or the messenger? 12:48 – Hermeneutics: hearing the Spirit in the text 14:03 – Sitting longer with the text & preaching from overflow 17:26 – High view of Scripture & reading the old giants 20:36 – Questioning Scripture & chaos in the church 22:12 – When messenger and message don’t match 23:28 – Correction, instruction & the heart of God 24:14 – Mentors, models, and planning rhythms 27:12 – Good study habits vs lazy shortcuts 29:19 – Can the messenger hinder the message? 31:05 – Final advice: double your study & prayer; set boundaries ⸻ 👉 If this episode helped you, please: • Subscribe to the channel • Like this video • Share it with a pastor, Bible college student, or friend sensing a call to ministry 🖥 More Resources & Show Notes: Visit: TheyCallMePastor.com – Full show notes – Recommended reading – Blog posts & future resources for pastors and ministry students 📩 Stay Connected: Email: Hello@theycallmepastor.com Instagram: @theycallmepastorpodcast We love you, we’re praying for you— Let’s pastor well.