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After one big chapter ends, the question everyone asks is: “So… what’s next?” But what if what’s next doesn’t have to be the next big thing? In this episode of Step Into Next, Helaine and Leanne get honest about the in-between season, that liminal space after you’ve built something meaningful, closed a chapter, or hit a major milestone, and you’re not quite sure what comes next. They talk about: -Why pressure, expectations, and identity can make “figuring out what’s next” feel overwhelming -The difference between control vs. surrender (and how The Surrender Experiment by Michael Singer reshaped how they think about growth) -Barack Obama’s idea of asking “What’s my next highest and best use?” - and why that question is both clarifying and stressful -Letting go of doing things just because you’re good at them -The slow, intentional process of unstitching your identity from a former role, company, or achievement -Why once you’ve experienced flow and alignment, it’s hard to settle for anything less Along the way, they share real-time stories, from post-LASIK realizations and dating metaphors to pent-up creative energy, retiring from past identities, and learning how to sit with uncertainty without rushing to fill it. If you’re navigating a career transition, life pivot, entrepreneurial pause, or personal reinvention - and wondering why the next step feels so unclear, this conversation is for you. Because sometimes, your next highest and best use… is exactly where you are right now.