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Ms. Rhoda Dawtry was born as Alice Rhoda Marsh on April 13th 1883 in Churchfields, West Bromwich to Mother Elizabeth Anne Batchelor and Father John W. Marsh. She had at least 5 brothers and sisters. At various points in her life her family owned the Jolly Nailor Pub on Lyndon road (Now houses), as well as The Red Lion, which was demolished and rebuilt around 1939, the new building still stands as a restaurant. Her family were Blacksmiths and her father owned the Hame works shop behind the now demolished 'Ring O' Bells' pub where you could 'Buy beer by the pound.' After the death of her father the Marsh family moved to Wolverhampton, later this would be where she met the man she would marry at the age of 27; Latimer Ridley Cromwell Dawtry, a mechanic from Sheffield boarding in the area. They never had any children together and by 1939 Ms. Dawtry considered herself to be divorced. She would take up work as a primary school teacher and eventually meet a pair of young folklorists; Jon Raven and Roy Palmer who persuaded her to give an interview. The date of the interview is unknown, but must have been in the very early 60's as Ms. Dawtry passed away on the 22nd of January 1963 in Penderford, Tettenhall. Ms. Dawtry's interview was significant for the recollection of many children's rhymes and games she knew from when she grew up as a child, she also provided a few tunes such as 'When a balloon flew o'er 'Ampton town' and 'Come all yew blades', the latter of which is an entirely unique fragment. This interview is currently the copyright of the British Library, and has been published here for educational purposes. I did an in depth exploration into Ms. Dawtry and one of the songs from this interview in a video on my main channel which can be found here: • What Remains of Billy Vite? | Black Countr... Chapters: 00:00 - Old Roger is dead 01:05 - How far is it to Babylon? 01:22 - One, Two, Three-a-laira 01:32 - Poor Jenny sits a-weeping 03:15 - I sent a letter to my love 04:10 - Talk about the Black Country 06:52 - Come all yew blades 07:44 - The Wedgebury Cocking (Fragment) 08:18 - When the balloon flew o'er 'Ampton town 08:56 - As I ran down between the Barley 11:06 - While shepherds watched 12:48 - Aley waley Notes: The first 5 chapters of this interview are rhymes that accompany children's games, for more information on the games themselves see 'Further Reading' Below. In her anecdotes Ms. Dawtry mentions the famous story of a Gornal or Sedgely person putting a pig on the wall, Black Country Poet Harry Harrison had an interesting theory on this that originally it would be putting the children on the wall, using the term 'piglet' affectionately, which then became overheard and distorted as a slight. Come all yew blades is an original version of 'Billy Vite and Nelly Green' which is a music hall piece which can be found in "Davidson's Universal Melodist" published by G.H. Davidson in 1853. No ISBN. https://www.google.co.uk/books/editio... The version Ms. Dawtry sings is unique due to its role reversal and serious nature, though decades of appeals have been made, the rest of the song has not been turned up. Ms. Dawtry originally learned this through her father, her Grandfather had heard it being sung by Nailors working the forge when he was a child. Ms Dawtry's version of Wedgebury Cocking appears jumbled, with the fragments being out of order, a full version exists in text and can be found in Jon Raven's "The Urban and Industrial Songs of the Black Country and Birmingham". References: Rhoda Dawtry (Date uncertain, claimed as either 1964 or 09/04/1966) Found in British Library in the Roy Palmer Folk Collection. Shelf Mark: 1CDR0010534 (copy of C1023/60) Recorded by Roy Palmer and Jon Raven. https://sounds.bl.uk/World-and-tradit... 1871 Census John William Marsh: Class: RG10; Piece: 2985; Folio: 126; Page: 22; GSU roll: 838868 1881 Census John William Marsh: Class: RG11; Piece: 2850; Folio: 76; Page: 47; GSU roll: 1341683 Birth Index: England & Wales, FreeBMD Birth Index, 1837-1915 1911 Census Alice Rhoda Dawtry: Class: RG14; Piece: 17048; Schedule Number: 219 1911 Census Latimer Dawtry: Class: RG14; Piece: 17046; Schedule Number: 62 1939 Register: The National Archives; Kew, London, England; 1939 Register; Reference: RG 101/5354J Probate Calendar: England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1858-1966 Further reading: Jon Raven talks extensively about Ms. Dawtry's interview and compares her records of children's rhymes and games to those of his own wife Kate Raven (from Tettenhall) in his early works Folklore and Songs of the Black County Volumes 1-3. These are long out of publication but are not yet public domain, as such you are most likely to find them as reference material in Black Country and Staffordshire Libraries and archives.