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In this Flow-Driven CEO conversation, I had a vitalising and powerful chat with Jefferson Utomo about life, leadership, business, and why according to a Gen Z high, pain tolerance is becoming one of the most important leadership skills heading into 2026. Jefferson is part of the CEO office at Amoda, a modular and conventional construction company based in Jakarta, with a mission to make commercial construction stress-free. I loved everything about our chat and all the energy that Jefferson brings to his growth personally in terms of legacy, conviction, humility and what it takes to build businesses that hold under pressure. Through the Bee Formless™ methodology, we explored: LEARN (Letting go) ✨ Hard Work vs Luck: what actually compounds over time ✨ Global Expansion: entering new markets without chaos UNLEARN (Reimagine & reshape) ✨ High Pain Tolerance: the entrepreneur’s real edge under pressure ✨ Construction Reimagined: modular and conventional, without legacy drag RELEARN (Test & implement) ✨ Mastering Your Strengths: the top 3 traits leaders need for 2026 ✨ Stress-Free Delivery: speed, trust, and reliability as strategy ACTIVE RECOVERY (Reflect & reset) ✨ Stress-Free Leadership: reducing friction so decisions stay clean ✨ Regulating Pressure: turning sustained stress into clarity, not burnout 🎥 Watch the full episode • Leadership Under Pressure: Pain Tolerance,... About Jefferson Utomo Jefferson Utomo is an entrepreneur and operator focused on building durable companies and decision systems that hold up under pressure. His lens is simple and powerful: turn stress into clarity, not chaos. Where to find more from Jefferson 🔗 / jeffersonutomo 🌐 https://amoda.id 📸 Instagram: Amoda 🎵 TikTok: Amoda If you’re navigating transition or friction and you’re ready to reshape your life, leadership, or business from the inside out, book a complimentary 60-minute Bee Formless™ Strategic Diagnostic. Book here: https://calendly.com/beeformless/prog... 💭 Where could you stop avoiding pressure and start using it as a leadership signal? #beeformless #formlessmethodology #learnunlearnrelearn #activerecovery #flowdrivenceo #soulfulhighflowconsciousleadership #lifeleadershipbusiness #presencepurposepeopleperformance #insideouttransformation #antifragile #highflow #nonlinear #tolerance #foundermindset #genz #ambition #constructiontech #amoda