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What your body is actually telling you in perimenopause and why 'eating well' may not be enough. In this episode, Shamala and Susanah are joined by Dr Cheryl Kam, a functional doctor and mother of five, for a remarkably candid conversation about the hidden links between stress, nutrition, and how we navigate midlife in our bodies. In this conversation, you'll discover: How the stress loop depletes your minerals and nutrients — even when you think you're eating well Why the order in which you eat carbs, protein, and fibre matters more than you might expect What perimenopause actually felt like for three women who've been through it — and what made the difference The connection between cortisol, sugar cravings, and the spiral that's harder to escape than you'd think How to think about nutrition at midlife without going neurotic about it This is Part 1 of a two-part conversation. Timestamps: [00:00] Introducing Dr. Cheryl Kam and Susanah Cheok [01:00] Managing a family of five — how it actually happens [04:30] Confidence after having children: the jump backwards nobody warns you about [05:00] Perimenopause and pregnancy — when the symptoms overlap [07:00] How the last 30 years of lifestyle predict how bumpy perimenopause will be [08:00] Shamala and Susanah's own perimenopause journeys: rest, food, and what made the difference [11:30] When your body is stable — the quiet advantage you may not realise you have [13:00] Ignorance, discipline, and why we self-soothe with food [14:00] Understanding the stress loop: cortisol, sugar cravings, and the spiral [17:00] Sugar isn't just the white stuff — what your clients don't realise about carbs and fruit [19:30] Eating in sequence: why fibre and protein first changes everything [22:30] The vinegar secret — what Mediterranean and Asian food cultures already know [28:00] Teaching children to eat well without over-intellectualising it [30:00] Modeling over teaching — how kids actually absorb what we show them [34:30] How Dr. Cheryl Kam approaches the stress loop clinically: fill the tank first [37:30] Why stressed people are often nutrient-depleted even when eating well [40:00] The role of magnesium, supplements, and sleep in the midlife body 👉 Subscribe for real conversations about midlife, emotional mastery, relationships, and authentic living. Our websites: Shamala: https://www.shamalatan.info/ Dr Cheryl: https://www.Drcherylkam.com To purchase magnesium from Dr Cheryl's Calm Brand, here's the link: https://www.iwantcalm.com/?ref=Shamala and you will enjoy a 5% discount Our Books: Shamala: https://www.shamalatan.info/ebook-nav... or on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/Navigating-Nar... YouTube: Shamala: / @sha-musings Instagram: Shamala: / shamalatan Susanah: / narcheska67 Dr Cheryl: / drcherylkam Facebook: Shamala: / bespiritualandrich #EmpoweredAtMidlife #MidlifeWomen #Perimenopause #MenopauseHealth #WomenOver40 #EmotionalMastery #FunctionalMedicine #MidlifeNutrition #StressAndHealth #ShamalaTan #MidlifePodcast #WomenWhoLead #MidlifeConfidence #HealthyMidlife #YouTubePodcast