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In this conversation, Hugh Plappert and Jay Kanda discuss the evolving landscape of church technology, focusing on Jay's journey from a reluctant tech user to an innovative tech pastor at Saddleback Church. They explore the challenges and opportunities in online ministry, the importance of community, and practical advice for small churches looking to leverage technology. Jay emphasizes the need for simplicity in tech solutions and shares insights on training and resources available for church tech leaders. TAKEAWAYS Technology shrinks our world and spreads the gospel. Jay's journey into church tech began with curiosity. Streaming services can enhance community, not detract from it. Overcoming negative perceptions about online ministry is crucial. Online groups were a breakthrough for Saddleback's ministry. Simplifying streaming technology is essential for small churches. Peer learning is invaluable in church tech. Conferences provide community and networking opportunities. Passion for problem-solving drives success in tech roles. Resources are available for churches of all sizes to improve their tech. CHAPTERS 00:00 Introduction to Church Tech Careers 03:03 Jay's Journey into Church Technology 05:50 The Evolution of Online Ministry 08:43 Overcoming Challenges in Streaming 11:51 The Power of Online Community 14:32 Simplifying Technology for Small Churches 17:37 Learning and Training in Church Tech 20:40 Passion for Problem Solving in Tech 23:20 Encouragement for Aspiring Church Techs 24:31 Resources for Church Tech Leaders