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In just a few short years, Jennifer Welch and Angie Sullivan have turned "I've Had It" and IHIP News into must-see (or listen) podcasts for progressives who are tired of the Trump administration's dangerous, unhinged antics AND mealy-mouthed dissembling from centrist Democrats. Yet surprisingly (or not) Jennifer and Angie aren't millennials from Brooklyn — they're middle-aged moms from the Oklahoma City suburbs — and they're hilarious. Kara sits down with Jennifer to talk about what it's like to be a liberal atheist in the Bible Belt, why she she's frustrated with centrist Democrats, and what the party gets wrong about red states like Oklahoma. Plus, how she comes up with great nicknames, like Cankles McTaco Tits for President Trump. Please note: The original interview for this episode was taped Friday morning, before Greene announced her decision to resign from Congress in January and Mandani met with Trump. We taped a second interview on Saturday morning to get Jennifer’s reaction to the news. 00:00 A wild political week 01:40 Trump’s sudden embrace of Zohran Mamdani 04:06 GOP meltdown over the Mamdani-Trump meeting 06:00 What Mamdani’s win means for the Democrats 07:22 Marjorie Taylor Greene’s shock resignation 9:56 Is MTG rebranding for a presidential run? 14:32 The Trump-Mamdani photo op 17:28 Trump’s “reinvention” and JD Vance jealousy 19:10 Why Democrats keep getting outflanked 22:03 Jennifer Welch on leaving Oklahoma and rising in media 28:50 Why the Democrats are failing 31:37 Growing up a liberal atheist in a conservative Oklahoma 38:30 How Angie Sullivan and Jennifer Welch met 44:18 What's it like to be a liberal in Oklahoma and moving to New York 50:29 How Jennifer Welch comes up with her iconic nicknames 53:42 Why Democrats shouldn't become more centrist 1:03:00 Majorie Taylor Greene's U-turn on Trump 01:08:00 Epstein, “Bubba,” and why Democrats must fight dirty 01:10:40 Anderson Cooper’s “quiet piggy” question 01:13:20 Why Democrats shouldn't support Israel 1:19:40 What Democrats get wrong about red states 01:22:40 New York City ‘Would You Rather?’ Subscribe: https://goo.gl/FRleYo Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast... Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/42ntT7X... FOLLOW US Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/onwithkaras... TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@onwithkaraswi... LinkedIn: / kara-swisher-b7213 Threads: https://www.threads.com/@onwithkarasw... Bluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/onwithkarasw... Subscribe: https://goo.gl/FRleYo