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Today we chat with Matt Sullivan. Founder and CEO of Torro Media. --- 💼 Join 47,000+ following on LinkedIn: / brianfoconnor 🐦 Join 40,000+ following on Twitter: https://x.com/BrianFOConnor 0:00 Meet Matt Sullivan 0:45 The "Oh Shit" moment, "I can't do this alone" 2:07 Why hiring generalists was a mistake 7:10 "We were the guinea pig" testing on yourself before selling 11:22 Hiring the Mac and Cheese reviewer 15:06 Mrs. Monday, The COO who fixed everything 24:08 AI vs humans, where each wins 28:14 How Matt checks capacity and forecast hiring 34:36 ChatGPT recommended Torro to a prospect 37:50 "Deeper vs wider," the growth strategy shift 43:53 What an A-player actually means 49:03 Hiring differently for doers vs leaders 54:28 "Deeper vs wider," what's working now 59:08 Hooks that got them 40,000 emails + millions of views 1:02:34 Hack ChatGPT to reverse engineer your visibility 1:08:31 Where to find Matt + Torro