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In this episode of The Fintech Combine, host Kris Kovac sits down with Jonty Hirsowitz, founder and CEO of Deferit, to explore how his latest innovation — Pebble — is helping consumers build credit simply by paying their everyday bills on time. Jonty shares his journey from corporate law to fintech entrepreneurship, the problem Pebble solves for thin-file consumers, and how credit unions can use embedded credit tools to engage younger members and drive financial inclusion. Subscribe for more fintech insights! 🚀 Follow the Pod: / fintechcombine Follow Kris Kovacs: / managementbytes / kriskovacs / kriskovacs The Fintech Combine is Produced and Edited by Anson Beckler-Jones Follow Anson Beckler-Jones Instagram - @ansonandco Youtube - @ansonandco _______________________________________ 00:00 – Welcome to The Fintech Combine with Kris Kovac 00:40 – Meet Jonty Hirsowitz: Founder & CEO of Deferit 01:15 – From Corporate Lawyer to Fintech Entrepreneur 02:30 – The Birth of Deferit: Helping Consumers Budget Smarter 04:00 – Introducing Pebble: Building Credit Through Bill Payments 05:45 – The Problem Pebble Solves for Thin-File Consumers 07:00 – Why On-Time Payments Should Boost Your Credit Score 09:00 – How Pebble Integrates with Credit Unions & Banks 11:00 – Turning Bill Pay Into a Credit-Building Opportunity 13:00 – The Business Model for Credit Unions & Member Engagement 15:00 – How Pebble Helps Attract Younger Members (25–45 Demographic) 17:00 – Real Impact: Credit Score Growth & Consumer Outcomes 18:45 – Partner Pilots: How Credit Unions Can Get Started 20:30 – Building Embedded Fintech Tools That Actually Work 22:00 – Navigating Credit Bureau Partnerships & Compliance 25:30 – Lessons from the Startup Journey 26:30 – Advice for Aspiring Fintech Founders 28:00 – The Future of Pebble, Alternative Data & Open Banking 30:00 – How to Connect with Jonty Hirsowitz 30:30 – Closing Thoughts from Kris Kovac