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Check out Ditto: https://ditto.sh/9hmopb About Guest: Ajay Gupta is the visionary founder behind Capital Foods, who created household brands like Ching’s Secret and Smith & Jones. With a background in disruptive advertising, he revolutionised Indian kitchens by popularising Desi Chinese cuisine. His bold marketing strategies and consumer insight built a ₹2,000 crore empire, recently acquired by Tata. Today, he continues his journey as Senior Advisor to the CEO at Tata Consumer Products Ltd. In this podcast, Ajay Gupta shares his remarkable journey from bankruptcy to building Capital Foods, home to Ching’s Secret and Smith & Jones. He discusses the emotional toll of failure, the vision behind launching Desi Chinese in India, and the power of storytelling and branding. Ajay reflects on scaling without credit, reinventing home cooking, and ultimately selling his ₹2,000 crore business to Tata, offering deep lessons on resilience, innovation, and legacy-building. Timestamps: 00:00 Introduction 02:15 Marketing vs. Advertising 02:55 Understanding Consumer Wants 06:21 The Rise of Indian Fashion 07:21 Transition to Marketing and Advertising 08:07 Seeking Knowledge and Mentorship 10:24 Case Studies and Observations 11:32 Building a Fashion Retail Empire 12:28 Entering the Food Industry 14:16 Challenges in the Food Business 15:05 Export Strategies and Innovations 20:01 The Birth of Desi Chinese 23:54 Survival and Growth Strategies 27:31 The Role of Supermarkets 29:44 Exporting Indian Cuisine 38:27 Maintaining Profitability 48:10 Observations on Consumer Behavior 49:11 Future of Indian Market 53:48 Opportunities in New Categories 55:41 Affordable Pricing Strategies 56:14 Consumer Aspirations and Dining Table Excitement 56:55 The Complexity of Food Marketing 58:00 Understanding Consumer Behavior 58:27 Rural and Urban Market Insights 01:00:37 Capital Foods' Market Approach 01:10:07 The Role of Brand Ambassadors 01:11:00 Building a Strong Brand Identity 01:24:51 The Importance of Human Connection in Business 01:33:21 Balancing Health and Taste 01:36:08 The Journey of Wealth Creation 01:39:56 The Power of Belief in Entrepreneurship 01:42:47 The Role of Luck in Success 01:43:09 Admiration for Successful Brands 01:43:49 The Emotional Connection with Amul 01:47:14 Respect and Human Values 01:47:28 Bucket List Achievements 01:48:49 Philanthropy and Impact Investment 01:50:29 Reflections on the Journey 01:50:52 Final Thoughts and Gratitude Credits: Host: Shivank Joshi - / shivankjoshi-2001 Thumbnail: YaaS Post Production: YaaS Support: Zerodha ( https://zero1byzerodha.com/network ) Disclaimer: The views, thoughts, and opinions expressed by the speaker and host are their own and do not represent those of the Exploring Minds platform. The information provided in this podcast is for educational purposes only and does not constitute financial or investment advice. All products and company names mentioned are the property of their respective owners, and their use does not imply any endorsement or opposition. #AjayGupta #CapitalFoods #ChingsSecret #SmithAndJones #Entrepreneurship #DesiChinese