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Sales growth isn’t just about hiring more people, it’s about building the right systems. In this episode of Sales Against the Odds, host Lee Brumbaugh talks to Jason Flanzbaum, president of Boca Bearing, and Michael Wills, Fractional Sales Leader at Sales Xceleration, about the journey of transitioning from a marketing-driven to a sales-driven organization. Jason shares the challenges of scaling his business, the frustrations of managing salespeople, and the critical moment when they realized they needed a structured sales approach. They explore how Michael helped align sales processes, redefine roles, and pivot the company toward targeting industrial buyers. From managing sales teams to refining incentive structures and using tools like HubSpot, this conversation will give insight on the key strategies for SMBs to achieve sustainable growth and long-term success. Key takeaways: The importance of transitioning from a marketing-driven to a sales-driven organization How fractional sales leadership helps align strategy and drive growth Why structured sales processes and clear role definitions are key to scaling an SMB Episode highlights: (00:00) Introduction (01:33) Discussion on sales challenges (04:03) Transitioning from a marketing-driven to a sales-driven organization (06:26) Implementing effective sales strategies for growth (08:03) Building and managing a high-performing sales team (11:03) Adapting to new market demands and evolving the business model (14:19) Leveraging technology for sales growth and efficiency (21:04) The role of AI in enhancing sales operations (24:49) Networking and its role in driving business success Connect with the team: Michael Wills on LinkedIn: / michaelwills2 Jason Flanzbaum on LinkedIn: / jason-flanzbaum-32674362 Explore Boca Bearing: https://www.bocabearings.com/ Lee Brumbaugh on LinkedIn: / lee-brumbaugh-7835512b Sales Xceleration on LinkedIn: / sales-xceleration Explore Sales Xceleration: https://salesxceleration.com/