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Jacek Kuroń - How the people's government dealt with undesirable citizens (36/150)

To listen to more of Jacek Kuroń’s stories, go to the playlist:    • Jacek Kuroń (Social activist)   Polish activist Jacek Kuroń (1934-2004) helped to transform the political landscape of Poland. He was expelled from the communist party, arrested and incarcerated. He was also instrumental in setting up Workers' Defence Committee (KOR) and became a Minister of Labour and Social Policy. [Listeners: Jacek Petrycki, Marcel Łoziński; date recorded: 1987] TRANSCRIPT: If we're talking about beatniks, I didn't have a problem with them. An obviously criminal story and my allegiance with various friends who would beat up anyone who had informed, I had an inner awareness of this problem, but it wasn't an issue of settling accounts with the new system as I understood perfectly that these crooks were not in the right. But then there was my ordinary human allegiance. I found the problem of the beatniks extremely difficult and my father drew attention to it by constantly asking me whether it meant that someone's outlook was narrow if they wore narrow trousers, but broader if their trousers were wider, and could people no longer dress the way they wanted to and are you telling them how they should be dressing? His arguments hit home although I replied that the way a person dressed depended on their outlook on life and that it wasn't just an issue of clothes since this was only a part of something that was a bigger whole, which constituted the overall point of view. This issue is associated with the most dramatic experience of the ZMP years, one which narrowed my - broadened my - no, it narrowed my... it upset the uniformity of my outlook on life. It was in '52, and there was a youth rally for the best young students and workers in Warsaw. I was a plenipotentiary - I need to add that in the meantime, I'd passed my leaving exams and had joined the ZMP ruling body and so was an instructor in the ZMP in the area covering Warsaw. Initially, it had been suggested that I drop out of school and join the ruling body but I put up a very strong fight, and despite the whole ethos of a professional revolutionary which I found very attractive, by some miracle, it's hard to say how it happened, I took my leaving exams, thank God. I didn't just take my exams, because on the day I took them I already had a training session as an instructor for the area covering Warsaw. I had become a senior instructor and I was a plenipotentiary executive of the Warsaw Committee in my district, Żolibórz, no, it was for the Wawer region, I was living in Żolibórz. I had an assignment in Żolibórz and I remember being summoned by the district ZMP secretary, his name was Płaska, and he says to us that it's like being a father and when his son is misbehaving, the father tells him once, then a second time, then a third but the son carries on misbehaving so then the father has to thrash his son. Well, things can't carry on as they are with these beatniks. We talk to them, we explain things to them but they just ignore us. Meanwhile, Warsaw needs to be free of them during the rally so we need to organise teams that will teach them a lesson if they start any trouble. I have to admit that as he was telling me this, it didn't sound too bad to me because it had a kind of - it wasn't even the example he gave of the fatherly approach, because that, of course, made no impression on me, but there'd be one group fighting with another, the boys would be fighting, that's just normal for boys to get into a fight. But, like I said, I got transfered to Wawer at that point. I came home towards evening and there used to be this process of propaganda points just before the rally itself, we had a few of these throughout Warsaw, one or two in each district. There was music there and a dancefloor, people would have a dance and then mottos were read out before the rally. We had one in the Paris Commune square opposite WSS. There was this point there with a dance floor, there used to be a lawn in that spot, now there's a road. When I got there, I came home and then I went over there to meet some friends at this propaganda point. And at that moment, just as I was arriving, they played some beatnik music and a whole crowd of them went for this lad who was bopping away on the dancefloor. They dragged him upstairs to the WSS, I followed them. Płaska had turned up for the inauguration of this fartherly reprimand, and had brought some other old comrade of his from the KW with him. The lad was brought in and shoved into the room. [...] Visit https://www.webofstories.com/play/jac... to read the remaining part of the transcript.

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