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Greylock Partner Saam Motamedi sits down with Ankur Goyal to discuss his latest company Braintrust, which helps developers build AI that works. Ankur is a repeat founder who started working in AI long before the debut of ChatGPT. He previously founded Impira, which was acquired by Figma, where he stayed on to lead the AI team. The discussion covers: Why evals are core to AI development "Taste" in product development What a culture of customer obsession looks like Ankur's approach to scaling and managing a team Timestamps: 00:00 - Intro 00:36 - When Saam and Ankur met 01:20 - Ankur's background (CS at CMU, MemSQL, Impira, Figma, Braintrust) 04:44 - Why evals are the core of product development in AI 06:17 - Why picking a development strategy is more important than picking a model 07:17 - Why "high taste" organizations use Braintrust 09:25 - Why the Braintrust platform is built on user feedback 10:16 - What being "customer obsessed" actually means 11:55 - Brainstore and database systems 14:15 - Whether Datadog is a good analogy for Braintrust 16:00 - Whether there will be a company for each type of eval 17:46 - Velocity of customer adoption at Braintrust 19:42 - Non engineers using Braintrust 21:56 - Ankur's style of leadership 22:42 - Lessons on scaling GTM 24:36 - Why Braintrust takes recruiting as seriously as customer obsession 25:10 - The future for Braintrust More on Ankur: https://www.braintrust.dev/ / ankrgyl https://x.com/ankrgyl More on Saam: https://greylock.com/ / saammotamedi https://x.com/saammotamedi