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TandL Talks S2Ep22 – The Journey to Leadership Starts Now In this episode of TandL Talks, Nancy welcomes longtime colleague, mentor, and beloved Washington educator Dr. Glenn Malone into the TandL Clubhouse. With more than 40 years serving students, teachers, leaders, and future administrators, Glenn brings unmatched wisdom, humility, and heart to this conversation. Together, Nancy and Glenn explore what truly defines effective school leadership — the dispositions that matter more than technical skills, the realities behind common myths, and how teachers can begin building authentic leadership experience long before stepping into an admin role. Glenn also reflects on the moments that shaped him, including the fourth grade teacher who sparked his lifelong commitment to inclusion and belonging. Whether you're a teacher feeling the first tug toward leadership or simply curious about the principalship, this episode offers clarity, encouragement, and candid insight into one of the most challenging — and most joy filled — roles in our system. Want more information about school leadership? Contact Glenn: gmalone@cityu.edu