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Interview date: May 13, 2025 Civic Caucus: http://www.civiccaucus.org INTERVIEW DETAILS ⇩⇩⇩: This is the first in our new public-policy interview series, "How to Restore Faith in Our Minnesota Institutions," featuring guests: Lucy Gerold, Former Minneapolis Deputy Chief of Police John Delmonico, Former Minneapolis Police Lieutenant, and Former President of the Minneapolis Police Federation Presented by: The Civic Caucus Moderator: Paul Ostrow Guests: Lucy Gerold, John Delmonico Panelists: T Williams, Janis Clay, Luka Jacobi-Krohn, Chloe Zhao Timestamps and Key Segments: ● 0:00 – Welcome and Introductions ○ Overview of the Civic Caucus initiative ○ Introduction of moderator and panelists ● 2:15 – Overview of Upcoming Interviews ○ Peter Hutchinson (May 27), Mitch Pearlstein & Dane Smith (June 13), T Williams (Summer) ● 3:35 – Guest Introduction ○ Lucy Gerold and John Delmonico’s backgrounds in law enforcement ● 6:30 – Opening Question: Defining Success in Policing ○ Lucy Gerold shares five key principles: relationships, leading by example, inclusivity, collaboration, and accountability ○ John Delmonico reflects on community-police relations (PCRC) and union leadership ● 19:45 – T Williams’ Question: Building Trust in Communities ○ Strategies for entering distrustful communities and coaching officers on community engagement ● 27:45 – Janis Clay’s Question: Media Portrayals and Public Trust ○ The gap between public perception and reality; calls for strategic communication and transparency ● 34:30 – Luka Jaocbi-Krohn’s Question: Officer Accountability & Training Discussion of coaching, policy enforcement, and consistency in discipline ● 42:00 – Chloe Zhao’s Question: Future of Policing ○ Vision for a guardian-centered model; emphasis on restorative practices ● 50:25 – T Williams: Supervision & Institutional Memory ○ Importance of 1:1 supervisory time and remembering past policing successes ● 1:02:30 – Paul Ostrow’s Question: Transparency and Incentives ○ Why leaders hide misconduct and how transparency can actually build trust ● 1:13:00 – Youth Perspectives: Engagement with Young People ○ How to change youth perceptions and create positive early experiences with law enforcement ● 1:21:30 – Policing Resources & Community Policing ○ Challenges with short-staffing, cutting successful programs like SAFE, and funding priorities ● 1:29:00 – Final Thoughts: Hope for the Future ○ Gerold and Delmonico share optimism and encourage open dialogue and youth involvement