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What does it take to go from working front cash at a McDonald's in rural Quebec to leading as CEO? Michèle Boudria, Board Director & Former CEO of McDonald's Canada, did exactly that, creating what she calls “a virtuous cycle of high performance.” In this Talk About Talk episode, Dr. Andrea Wojnicki sits down with Michèle to unpack the real ingredients behind her rise: grit, a relentless focus on feedback, next-level networking, and an authentic, people-first leadership style. Plus, she shares the mindset shift that changed everything at age 25: "Do not mistake my kindness for weakness." This one is full of honest, practical gold on building confidence, getting the right people in your corner, and leading with impact. DOWNLOAD THE LEADERSHIP PRESENCE FRAMEWORK at: https://www.talkabouttalk.com/leaders... Topics covered in this episode: 🞄 The three things Michèle credits for her four-decade rise to CEO 🞄 Why your personal "board of directors" might be the most underrated career tool 🞄 How to ask for honest feedback (and actually use it) 🞄 The difference between confident and arrogant, and how to stay on the right side 🞄 Why surrounding yourself with smarter people is a leadership superpower 🞄 The virtuous cycle of high performance that Michèle built at McDonald's 🞄 How leadership styles are shifting and what that means for your career Chapters: 00:00 - Introduction: Michèle Boudria's incredible journey 01:25 - The three things she credits for her success: grit, curiosity, and people 02:34 - Building your personal board of directors 04:51 - The harsh feedback that changed everything at 25 07:33 - Allies, mentors, and supporters: the three roles you need 13:46 - "Do not mistake my kindness for weakness" 14:58 - The virtuous cycle of high performance 18:04 - Confident vs. arrogant: how to stay on the right side 19:23 - Giving your team permission to push back on you 32:17 - Book rec + why every leader needs to adapt their style right now CONNECT WITH ANDREA: 🔼Free Download: “The Leadership Presence Hierarchy: https://www.talkabouttalk.com/leaders... 🌐 Website: https://talkabouttalk.com/ 🔗 LinkedIn: / andreawojnicki ✉️ Andrea’s Email Newsletter: https://www.talkabouttalk.com/newslet... 🟣 Talk About Talk on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast... 🟢 Talk About Talk on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/3afgjXu... CONNECT WITH MICHÈLE: 🔗 LinkedIn: / michele-boudria 🌐 Website: https://www.mcdonalds.com/ca/en-ca/ne... MICHÈLE'S BOOK RECOMMENDATION: 📖 Grit: The Power of Passion and Perseverance by Angela Duckworth → https://amzn.to/3ZAyjCg