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In this episode, Heather talks with Pat about High Leverage Practice #4: using multiple sources of information to gain a complete understanding of a student’s strengths and needs. Pat shares insights from their experience navigating complex, multi-provider settings, emphasizing the importance of listening, asking questions, and approaching collaboration with humility. They explore how different perspectives—from parents, schools, and other service providers—can both complement and conflict, and how to address collective blind spots in decision-making. The conversation highlights strategies for integrating diverse data while remaining flexible, open-minded, and student-centered. Pat reflects on the soft skills required to foster trust and alignment across teams, showing that effective collaboration is as much about relationships as it is about data. Listeners will gain practical guidance on balancing professional expertise with empathy to support meaningful outcomes for students. Explore More with Us inside The TLC Network! Learn more in each episode’s show notes and join a vibrant community of behavior-focused school professionals committed to their professional growth. https://university.thresholdlearning.... Join Our Newsletter Stay updated with our latest episodes and receive exclusive content every week. Sign up now! https://university.thresholdlearning.... Follow Us on Social Media Connect with us on LinkedIn, Instagram, and Facebook for weekly updates and behind-the-scenes content. Tag us @thresholdlearningtlc to engage with us across all platforms! / thresholdlearningtlc / thresholdlearningtlc / thresholdlearningtlc Subscribe to Our Podcast Enjoyed today’s episode? Share it with friends and never miss an episode on your favorite platform: YouTube, Spotify, Apple Podcasts, and more! YouTube: / @thresholdlearningtlc Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/37sOcYO... Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast... Support Our Mission Love what you hear? Support our efforts to empower local schools to support complex youth. Visit TLC Nonprofit to learn more. https://www.tlcnonprofit.co/ Send Us Your Feedback Have questions or ideas for future episodes? Reach out to us at podcast@thresholdlearning.org — we’d love to hear from you!