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In this episode of Funding Fathers, the guys sit down for one of the most honest conversations they've ever had. They dive deep into what it really takes to grow, break, rebuild, and keep fighting inside the real estate and mortgage world. From losing momentum to reinventing themselves, from battling self-doubt to balancing fatherhood with the grind — this episode exposes the raw truth behind success. They open up about leadership, ego, burnout, and the pressure to keep performing when everyone expects you to have the answers. This one hits the moments most people don’t talk about: • the seasons where everything feels shaky • the pivots that hurt but are necessary • the nights you question the path you’re on • and the mindset shifts that bring you back stronger If you’ve ever rebuilt yourself, rebooted a business, or had to find a new version of you… this episode will feel like home. Timestamps 00:00:00 - Intro 00:03:12 – “Becoming a dad is what saved my life.” 00:05:40 – Realizing he had to “grow up” and stop coasting through life 00:06:45 – The power of saying “no” and protecting your time 00:10:58 – Sleeping in his car with a 170 lb Great Dane 00:12:49 – The transition from roofing and odd jobs into real estate 00:14:30 – Failing the real estate exam eight times 00:18:22 – Why authenticity beats perfection every time 00:21:10 – Year one: From nothing to $5M in sales 00:24:48 – The marketing systems that actually generated business 00:27:55 – Pivoting every 6 months to avoid stagnation 00:30:10 – Learning to let go of control and trust his team 00:36:40 – Guarding family time while scaling multiple businesses 00:41:58 – Being human in an industry full of fakes 00:48:14 – Using humor as a weapon for connection and growth 01:02:55 – Final message: Give yourself grace, focus on what matters