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In this episode of Conversations with Nic, I sit down with Dan Frammingham, a gym owner from Bedford, to talk honestly about leadership, growth, and what it really means to lead people. Dan shares his leadership journey across both church and business, reflecting on what he’s learned and unlearned along the way. We talk about why leadership isn’t something you set once and stick to, but something that needs constant testing, reviewing, and adapting as you grow. Dan also speaks about his desire to build other leaders, and why that’s become such an important focus for him now. This is a thoughtful, grounded conversation about leadership, responsibility, and becoming the kind of leader you needed at the beginning. Conversations with Nic is a podcast exploring life, love, and leadership with everyday inspiring people. My hope is that these conversations will spark reflection, encourage growth, and help you on your own journey. CHAPTERS: 00:00 Introduction 01:46 Who is Dan? 07:19 What does leading yourself well look like? 11:17 How would you describe your current chapter of life? 15:39 Leadership challenges 25:39 Who has impacted your leadership approach? 30:07 What's a business principle you've applied in your context? 39:16 Meaningful leadership in the next chapter 42:48 Leadership assumption that is now viewed differently 45:57 Dan's key takeaway GUEST INFO: Connect with Dan on Instagram: @coach_dan_fram Find out more about Dan's gym, Fit Co: https://www.fitnesscollective.co.uk Enjoyed this episode? Subscribe for more Conversations with Nic! #leadershipjourney #leadershipdecisions #conversationswithnic #businessowners #smallbusinessowners #everydayleadership #podcastepisode