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Somewhere along the way, church became something it was never meant to be. For a lot of people who grew up in faith - it wasn't a dramatic falling away. Just a slow growing gap between what church looked like on Sunday and what life actually felt like the rest of the week. Claudia and Grace know that gap intimately. As sisters, growing up in a strict church environment, and they each found their own way out. But God had other plans. Today both sisters are part of Planetshakers College in Melbourne, leading discipleship groups for young people — walking alongside the next generation in the ways they once wished someone had walked alongside them. In this conversation, we talk about: What growing up in a strict church environment actually does to a child What it really means to be discipled Why you should give church another go If you've ever been hurt by the church, walked away, or wondered whether it's worth going back - this conversation is for you. Filmed in Kuching, Sarawak. 🎙 Hosted by Pastor Joyce Khoo 👥 Guests: Claudia Ho & Grace Ho