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Ever find yourself rambling in meetings or losing your audience during presentations? 🎤 In this episode, communication expert Joel Schwartzberg—author of Get to the Point and The Language of Leadership—joins us to break down exactly how to speak with clarity, purpose, and impact. You’ll learn: ✅ How to identify and sharpen your core message ✅ Why most people fail to “make a point”—and how to fix it ✅ How to handle interruptions and stay on track during meetings ✅ The psychology of volume, energy & pausing in communication ✅ How to avoid vague “badjectives” and speak with precision ✅ What makes an unforgettable ending (“stick the landing”) ✅ Real examples—including a powerful speech from Demi Moore Whether you’re a leader, innovator, entrepreneur, or just want to stop rambling and start resonating—this is your communication masterclass. 00:00 Introduction and Sponsor Message 00:29 The Importance of Having a Point 01:15 Welcoming the Author: Joel Schwartzberg 01:34 The Curse of Cassandra and Innovation 03:17 Communication in the Age of Remote Work 04:14 Engaging Introverts in Virtual Meetings 05:08 The Value of Different Communication Platforms 05:29 Personal Anecdote: The Pin Story 05:59 The Problem with Descriptive Communication 07:28 The Concept of Making a Point 11:42 The Role of AI in Communication 17:31 The Skill of Presentation 24:16 Demi Moore's Impactful Speech 30:53 Defining a Point 34:04 The Importance of X and Y in Achieving Goals 34:46 Empowering Introverts and Neurodiverse Individuals 35:06 Everyone is in Sales: Selling Ideas Effectively 35:44 The XY Test and Truism Buster Test 36:23 The Power of Making a Point 37:56 Effective Introductions and Delivering Points 42:03 Handling Interruptions and Making Your Point 43:44 The Importance of Endings and Pausing 48:34 Raising Volume and Emotional Contagion 54:05 Sharpening Your Point with Specific Tactics 58:22 Sticking the Landing: Ending with Impact 59:43 Final Thoughts and Resources 🔗 Resources & Links: Get Joel’s books: https://joelschwartzberg.net Our sponsor: https://www.kyndryl.com The show: https://thethursdaythought.substack.com The book: https://amzn.to/4abzop5 #Communication #Leadership #JoelSchwartzberg #PublicSpeaking #GetToThePoint #LanguageOfLeadership #Innovation #Podcast #SpeakingTips #ExecutivePresence