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John Hendrickson wrote a thought-provoking and revealing article in The Atlantic magazine about Joe Biden’s lifelong journey with stuttering. Joe Biden rarely speaks openly about his stutter, yet he shared some deeply personal feelings in the article. John also has a story to tell about his own journey with stuttering. NSA Board Member John Moore sits down with Hendrickson to talk about the stigmas of stuttering as a public figure, the lack of role models who stutter openly, and to learn how Hendrickson’s life has changed since the article. JOHN HENDRICKSON John Hendrickson is a Senior Editor at The Atlantic, where he edits and writes stories across the entire spectrum of politics. -------------------------------------- CONVERSATION TIMESTAMPS 0:00 – 2:15 Introduction 2:16 – 5:17 Hendrickson on being a role model. 5:18 – 7:40 Where are the role models who stutter in the public eye? 7:41 – 11:15 Discussion about normalizing stuttering. 10:48 – 14:16 How the Biden article in The Atlantic happened. 14:17 – 17:30 Hendrickson on celebrities being regular, flawed people. 17:31 – 20:48 Would Biden talking about his stutter make him more relatable? 20:49 – 25:27 Hendrickson on Biden’s label of being in “cognitive decline.” 25:28 – 27:58 Hendrickson explains this line from the article: “Stuttering can feel like a series of betrayals.” 27:50 – 32:02 The loneliness of stuttering. 32:03 – 39:04 Hendrickson explains this line from the article: “If you are a lucky stutterer you have friends and family who build you back up.” 39:05 – 41:47 Hendrickson discusses his lifelong journey being a person who stutters. 41:48 – 46:17 Hendrickson and Moore talk “self-acceptance” and fighting past self-doubt to find career success. 46:18 – 48:51 Hendrickson discusses how stuttering is his “secret weapon” as a journalist. 48:51 – 52:01 Hendrickson talks about the benefits he believes stuttering gives him. 52:02 – 57:04 Moore asks Hendrickson again how he feels being a role model for people who stutter.