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In this podcast interview for the Greenfield Community College Senior Symposium series, we explore the evolving flood infrastructure of Northampton and Hadley, Massachusetts — and the difficult questions facing both communities today. What begins as a discussion of historic flood control quickly becomes something more complex: a look at aging levees, pump stations dating to the 1940s, and the reality that much of our flood protection infrastructure has exceeded its intended lifespan. In this conversation, we discuss: • The legacy of the 1927 and 1936 floods • The Army Corps-era dikes, floodwalls, and pump systems still in place • The 2008–2009 Hadley levee crisis • The 2023 near-failure of Northampton’s 1940 pump engines • The “Honeypot” curve in Hadley and its geomorphological vulnerability • The rail trail acting as a secondary levee • The high cost and political complexity of modernization • The shift from hard engineering (riprap, concrete, rebar) toward hybrid and nature-based solutions One striking example: Northampton’s primary pump station still relies on repurposed 1940 tugboat engines installed after the 1936 flood. During a 2023 storm event, two pumps went offline and a third nearly failed — a reminder that infrastructure built in response to one generation’s disaster must eventually confront another’s. This interview frames the issue as “A Tale of Two Cities” — two communities divided by a river, facing different vulnerabilities, but bound by the same hydrology. The discussion avoids partisan politics while addressing governance, funding, and long-term planning — focusing instead on civic awareness and informed citizenship. Presented as part of the Greenfield Community College Senior Symposium series. For more on my work connecting infrastructure history, emergency management, and public resilience: www.JoshuaShanley.com #FloodInfrastructure #MassachusettsHistory #ClimateAdaptation #PublicPolicy #ConnecticutRiver #EmergencyManagement #CommunityResilience