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In this energising episode of the Say Again podcast, Amrita Tripathi chats with S. Devarajan (Dev) — former MD & CEO of Tata Elxsi and Cisco India, founder of Transmation Consulting, and author of Design to Win — for one of the most candid deep-dives into leadership, perseverance and the power of relationships. Watch or listen for more on: • A dramatic turnaround in Tata Elxsi history • What he learned directly from legends like Ratan Tata, including on how to advocate for what he believed in • Why empathy, EQ and passion matter more than ever for modern leaders • An iconic “coracle story” — when a young Dev crossed a dangerous river to keep a client meeting (and ended up winning the deal) • How we can navigate uncertainty, volatility and the new remote-work culture • Why perseverance, people-first thinking, and breaking big problems down into small ones still wins If you're a founder, senior leader, team manager, or someone building a meaningful career, this is a must-watch. Timestamps 00:00 Introduction 00:50 S Devarajan's Leadership Journey 01:41 Designed to Win: The Tata Elxsi Story 04:23 Dealing with Challenges and the turnaround at Tata Elects 09:24 Ratan Tata and the name change debate 16:20 Importance of Perseverance and the famous “coracle” story 22:25 Lessons and Top Leadership Tips 24:05 Learning from Success and Failure 26:40 The Importance of Empathy in Leadership 29:26 Navigating Remote Work Challenges and Volatility 32:10 Mentors, Gratitude and Acknowledgments 🔔 Subscribe for more conversations on leadership and mental health #ceo #leadership #leadershipdevelopment #sayagainpodcast #amritatripathi