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Jon Hoffman, PhD, of the Cato Institute joins to the political rift in America's right-wing over Israel and the potential for things to escalate with Iran. For the full show and extended interview with Krystal Ball, join us on Patreon at: / patreon-krystal-143382865 00:00 How do Democrats and Republicans differ on Israel and Iran? 01:00 For Netanyahu, Iran was never supposed to be a 12 day war 02:02 Would there have been a difference with Biden & Harris? 03:44 How could a rift be created between Trump and Netanyahu? 04:17 The three reasons the West supports Israel so unwaveringly 05:55 The strategic asset narrative 06:47 Ronald Reagan, the birth of the Neo-Con movement & Israel 07:32 The pathology of the special relationship with Israel 08:07 The myth of authoritarian stability as a pillar of the Abraham Accords 09:42 Can the anti-Zionist left and right come together and make change? 10:24 We are anti-interventionist, not isolationist 11:33 How socialists could work with libertarians Jon Hoffman is a research fellow in defense and foreign policy at the Cato Institute. His research interests include U.S. foreign policy in the Middle East, Middle East geopolitics, and political Islam. Hoffman’s work has been featured in a number of academic and policy-oriented platforms, including Foreign Policy, The Washington Post, The National Interest, Middle East Policy, and more. Hoffman was included in the inaugural cohort of the “40 under 40” award provided by the Middle East Policy Council for furthering U.S. understanding of the Middle East. Hoffman holds a Ph.D. in political science, an M.A. in Middle East and Islamic Studies, and a B.A. in Global Affairs, all from George Mason University **Please support The Katie Halper Show ** For bonus content, exclusive interviews, to support independent media & to help make this program possible, please join us on Patreon - / thekatiehalpershow Get your Katie Halper Show Merch here! https://katiehalper.myspreadshop.com/all Follow Katie on Twitter: https://x.com/kthalps Follow Katie on Instagram: / kthalps Follow Katie on TikTok: / kthalps