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FULL FORUM thread on Mike Mentzer: https://t-nation.com/t/the-mike-mentz... Custom workout service ONLY $29.99 - https://superlivingtoday.com/products... BLACK FRIDAY (December) Savings: https://superlivingtoday.com/pages/bl... LEARN MORE ABOUT COACHING: https://superlivingtoday.com/collecti... xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx In this video, we take a deep dive into Mike Mentzer’s Heavy Duty training through the eyes of his clients and those who consulted with him over the years. While Mentzer promoted ultra-low volume, infrequent workouts to maximize results, former clients share their firsthand experiences—some of which directly contradict his claims. We explore the evolution of Mentzer’s training style from the late 1980s to 1995, including how he reduced volume and frequency, and what real-world results looked like for natural bodybuilders. This includes critiques of consolidation routines, extreme infrequent training, and the lack of documented client results. We also share insights from his brother Ray, discuss the impact of elite genetics on perceived effectiveness, and highlight why persistence alone wasn’t enough for most lifters. xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Massive Iron Community: / discord =====================================0:00 – Introduction 0:28 – Overview of Mentzer’s Heavy Duty philosophy 1:32 – Training evolution: late 1980s to 1995 2:22 – Progression reduction and low-frequency routines 3:06 – Early client results and initial reactions 3:36 – Critique of extreme consolidation routines 4:53 – Max-effort training: pros, cons, and risks 6:30 – Impact on natural lifters and real-world results 7:10 – Ray Mentzer’s perspective on splits and flexibility 8:00 – Personal adjustments and lessons from clients 9:37 – Phone consultations and unique experiences 11:52 – Lack of documented client progress and evidence 14:06 – Steroids, elite genetics, and final takeaways