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Markets rise. Markets crash. The professionals who survive — and win — are the ones who build before the storm. In this episode of The Way, Dino sits down with Ken Perry, founder of @TheKnowledgeCoop longtime mortgage educator, speaker, and industry truth-teller, for a deep conversation about identity, confidence, systems, and leadership in volatile markets. Ken shares hard-earned lessons from decades in lending — including why misplaced confidence destroys careers, how lack of knowledge erodes trust, and why most loan officers struggle not because of the market, but because of poor preparation and broken systems. This conversation goes far beyond tactics. It’s about becoming the kind of professional clients trust, teams follow, and markets can’t shake. If you want to build a mortgage career that lasts through every cycle, this episode is required listening. What You’ll Learn in This Episode Why confidence is earned through knowledge — not hype How misplaced attribution creates dangerous highs and devastating lows The difference between coaching and therapy (and why leaders need both) Why systems matter more than talent when scaling production How ADHD, strengths, and self-awareness can become unfair advantages Why being “busy” is not the same as being effective How to prepare your business before the next market shift Why education builds trust faster than marketing How loan officers lose deals to Google — and now AI What it really means to act like the CEO of your own mortgage business Thanks for listening to The Way with Dino Katsiametis. For full show notes, links, and additional episode resources, visit dinokatsiametis.com. Follow Dino for weekly clips and mortgage leadership insights: instagram.com/dinokatsiametis | linkedin.com/in/dinokatsiametis Learn more about Ethos Lending at ethoslending.com.