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Summary In this debut episode of Within, hosts Nicky Wallace and Ali Payne unpack the deeply personal journeys that led them to create The People Co, a consultancy born from burnout, bold pivots, and a shared belief that real transformation starts from the inside out. Nicky shares how motherhood, corporate disillusionment, and health challenges led her to quit her high-performing sales job with no backup plan. What started as a break turned into a booming recruitment business, which she later sold after realizing she wanted more meaningful impact. Ali, meanwhile, details her own professional unraveling in the corporate wellness space, questioning surface-level fixes and pushing organizations to truly invest in their people. After losing her job for challenging the status quo, she teamed up with Nicky to build something different. Together, they walk through how The People Co was born, what it means to build people-first strategies, and why so many HR professionals are stretched too thin to solve real organizational problems. This is more than a consulting story, it's a conversation about career rebirth, rethinking workplace wellness, and helping companies do better by their people. Highlights 00:00 – Welcome to Within 01:00 – Nicky’s breaking point 03:00 – From stay-at-home mom to accidental entrepreneur 04:30 – Building NMW Consulting 06:00 – Selling the agency and getting back to strategy 08:00 – HR gaps and the “aha” moment 10:30 – Enter Ali Payne: from corporate wellness to culture work 14:50 – Rebuilding after burnout and layoff 17:00 – The People Co is born 19:00 – Why “Within” as a name About Within Within is a podcast hosted by Nicky Wallace and Ali Payne, founders of The People Co. It explores what happens when organizations stop chasing surface-level solutions and start doing the real work from within. Each episode unpacks stories of leadership, burnout, growth, culture, and the messiness of being human at work. Whether you’re in HR, leading a team, or just rethinking how work fits into your life, Within offers a candid and refreshing look at how people-first business gets built. Connect with them on LinkedIn at www.linkedin.com/in/nwallace515/ www.linkedin.com/in/alipayne/