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Get a breakdown of Jordan’s content engineering frameworks in my free newsletter: https://bit.ly/48JKUaa Apply to work with me: https://bit.ly/48sQY8d Jordan Schwarzenberger is the manager behind The Sidemen — one of the biggest creator groups on the planet, with over 10 billion views and a content empire that extends into restaurants, vodka brands, trading cards, a membership platform, and more. In this episode, Jordan breaks down the systems, strategies, and business models behind The Sidemen’s explosive rise. We cover how The Sidemen built a 2-billion-views-per-year YouTube machine, the real economics behind content businesses, the future of creators, how to think commercially about your channel, why most creators are stuck, and why the next era of content isn’t production — it’s engineering. This is one of the most detailed creator masterclasses ever recorded. Listen on Your Podcast Player: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/sh... Follow Callum on socials: Instagram – / thecallumc TikTok – / heycallum X – https://x.com/mcdonnellcallum LinkedIn – / callummcdonnell Produced by 7xContent – make your own Podcast with us: https://www.7xcontent.com Follow Jordan: Instagram – / jordanschwarzenberger LinkedIn – / jordanschwarzenberger Timestamps (accurate + true to transcript) 0:00 – Introduction: The next era is content engineering 1:37 – When Jordan realised creators were different 5:04 – Why YouTube is the engine room of the creator economy 8:41 – Anyone can win on YouTube: the democratization of reach 9:49 – How Jordan first identified the opportunity with The Sidemen 12:20 – Building the business: the original strategy & 15 focus areas 14:13 – Alcohol brand, restaurant, trading cards & Side+ — choosing what to build 17:20 – Launching Sides, XIX Vodka & Best Cereal — the real challenges 22:20 – Why Side+ (membership) is their most successful business 23:48 – The economics of creator brands & realistic conversion rates 28:40 – Joint ventures, partnerships & structuring creator businesses 33:46 – Long-term thinking: why creators won’t see returns for years 36:11 – Diversifying creator income & building financial resilience 41:05 – Why most UK creators are stuck — and the algorithm trap 43:21 – How to think commercially: audiences, niches & advertising lanes 47:15 – Why YouTube should be your primary platform 49:59 – Do creators need managers? (Jordan’s honest take) 53:47 – High-volume content, storytelling & what makes content “good” 55:58 – The three S’s: Stop, Stay, Satisfy — Jordan’s content framework 1:01:34 – The importance of analysing content like an engineer 1:03:29 – The monoculture collapse & how algorithms changed everything 1:08:07 – Instagram vs TikTok vs YouTube: where the real value is 1:13:37 – Why traditional TV talent struggle to transition to YouTube 1:17:55 – Final insights + why we’re still early in the creator wave