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How does crossing the threshold of grief open the gateway to other potent emotions? In part two of their conversation on grief, healing, and social transformation, Thomas and Francis Weller discuss what it means to become an apprentice to grief, how communal healing leads to individual and social maturity, and why it’s so important to lean into our interconnectedness when times are tough. Explore what’s lacking in Western cultures’ approach to processing grief and what might change if we create collective spaces, led by seasoned elders, to connect through our shared sorrows. Can we reclaim our humanity and remember how to live in harmony with the world? Francis believes that we can, but we must have the courage to look inward, sit in the heat of our own grief, and not turn away. #griefjourney #collectivehealing #communalhealing #shadowwork Subscribe to Thomas Hübl's channel for wisdom on healing, awakening, and transforming yourself and the world: / @thomashuebl For more episodes of the Point of Relation podcast, visit: https://pointofrelationpodcast.com/ ✨ Francis Weller, MFT, is a psychotherapist, author, and soul activist. He is a master of synthesizing diverse streams of thought from psychology, anthropology, mythology, alchemy, Indigenous cultures, and poetic traditions. His books, including The Wild Edge of Sorrow, have introduced the healing work of ritual to thousands of people. Francis founded and directs WisdomBridge, an organization that offers educational programs that seek to integrate the wisdom from Indigenous cultures with the insights and knowledge gathered from Western poetic, psychological, and spiritual traditions. For more than forty years, Francis has worked as a psychotherapist and developed a style he calls soul-centered psychotherapy. Connect with Francis here: 👉 www.francisweller.net OUT NOW: Francis' newest book: In the Absence of the Ordinary. Order it here: 👉 https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/bo... Order the ten-year anniversary edition of Francis' book, The Wild Edge of Sorrow, here: 👉 https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/bo... For more teachings, events, and resources: Website: https://thomashuebl.com/ Instagram: / thomashuebl Facebook: / thomas.huebl.sangha About Thomas: Thomas Hübl is a renowned spiritual teacher, author, and facilitator of collective trauma healing. He integrates the core insights of mystical traditions with the discoveries of science to help people awaken to their highest potential.