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Telephone Conversation between President Johnson and George Ball. Citation No.: 7336 April 9, 1965 Time: 9:30AM Location: Mansion Speakers: President Johnson and George Ball General Topics: Communist Bloc; Congressional Relations; Defense; Diplomacy; East Asia & The Pacific; Education; LBJ Travel; Legislation; Press Relations; Public Relations; Speeches; Vietnam; Vietnam Criticism; Western Europe Topics: Ball Tells LBJ He Will Meet With Cyrus Vance, Earle Wheeler To Analyze Facts About US Airplane Downed Over Hainan Island And Recommend Response To China; LBJ Expresses Concern About Effect Of Incident On Senate Vote On Education Bill; LBJ's Trip To Ranch Restriction: A-SAN RESTRICTION: Type of restriction of any closed material in the conversation. "A" indicates the conversation has been closed in its entirety because it contains national security classified information; "C" indicates it has been closed in its entirety in accordance with President Johnson's deed of gift (donor closure). "A-SAN," "C-SAN," and "A&C-SAN" indicate that part(s) of the conversation are closed for either national security, donor restrictions, or both. "B-SAN," which is more rare, indicates that part(s) of the conversation are closed by statute or by the originating federal agency. More info on the LBJ telephone conversations: http://www.lbjlib.utexas.edu/johnson/... President Johnson assigned his copyright to the United States government; however, the copyright of the President may not extend beyond statements made by President Johnson. Statements uttered by officials of the United States government in the course of their duties are considered to be in the public domain. Users of the recordings and transcripts are cautioned, however, that not all persons recorded were government officials. A number of the people recorded were, at the time of recording, private citizens. Therefore, those intending to quote from this material beyond the accepted limits of fair use are cautioned to determine the copyright implications of any intended publication.