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Reginé Gilbert shares what it takes to create accessible experiences ♿️, how her students are helping NASA to hear a solar eclipse ☀️, and why inclusive design is everyones job 🙋♂️. Highlights include: ⭐ How are inclusive design and accessibility different, yet related? ⭐ Why is disability not seen in the same light as other DE&I initiatives? ⭐ What should people do to make the digital world more accessible? ⭐ If big tech can’t do basic accessibility, what hope do we have? ⭐ Why is it important to include people with disabilities in the design process? #Accessibility #Disability #InclusiveDesign #UXDesign #UX #XR #UXResearch #UXR #UserResearch #BraveUX ====== Who is Reginé Gilbert? Reginé is an Industry Assistant Professor at New York University’s Tandon School of Engineering 👩🎓, where she is teaching the next generation of UX designers about the importance of accessibility and inclusive design - in both regular reality and cross-reality experiences 🦻. Before joining NYU, Reginé was the Chief Creative Officer of Gilbert Consulting Group, where she advised organisations - large and small - on accessibility 👨🦼. She has also worked as User Experience Lead at Ralph Lauren and, prior to entering UX, was a Senior Product Manager at Michael Kors 👜. She is the author of the book “Inclusive Design for a Digital World: Designing with Accessibility in Mind” 📘, an excellent starting point for anybody new to accessibility. Rumour has it that Reginé is also working on a new book called “Human Spatial Computing”, which will be published by Oxford University Press in 2023. ====== Find Reginé here: LinkedIn: / reginegilbert Twitter: / reg_inee Website: https://reginegilbert.com/ XR City - Accessibility Subway Map: 🗺 https://bit.ly/3STjLbZ Reginé’s book: Inclusive Design for a Digital World: 📘 https://amzn.to/3SVBCip ====== 00:00 Start 00:38 Reginé introduction 02:34 What are the parallels between UX and fashion design? 05:09 Why didn’t other roles in tech captivate you like UX design? 06:27 How have non-design tech roles helped you to be a better UX designer? 08:35 How do you break convention to make your conference talks more accessible? 11:05 How did you come to care deeply about accessibility? 13:00 Has your work in accessibility always been well-received? 15:21 What has surprised you the most about the feedback on your book? 17:20 How did you involve people with disabilities in the writing of your book? 18:21 How are inclusive design and accessibility different, yet related? 20:39 What common accessibility issues do we need to fix? 23:00 What initiatives exist to educate brand designers about accessibility? 24:41 What could UX designers learn from Universal Design? 26:39 Is ableism a conscious form of discrimination? 28:23 Do we use complexity as an excuse not to make products accessible? 30:43 Why is disability not seen in the same light as other DE&I initiatives? 32:41 Can accessibility really be everyone’s job? 33:54 Why is it important to include people with disabilities in the design process? 35:41 Why should we consider the needs of our future selves when designing? 37:28 If big tech can’t get the accessibility basics right, what hope do we have? 40:40 What role should inclusive language play in product design? 42:11 To what lengths should people go to when making things accessible? 43:25 What have you found is the key to creating more accessible experiences? 47:29 How do you get clear on the assumptions you’re carrying into a design project? 49:34 What impact has inviting people with disabilities to class had on students? 52:18 How does thinking of accessibility in terms of senses make it easier to grasp? 54:29 What has your grant from Teach Access enabled you to do? 56:28 What is Eclipse Soundscapes and why is it special? 01:00:34 How can people get involved in Eclipse Soundscapes? 01:01:06 What is XR how did you get involved in the design of it? 01:03:54 Why is it more challenging to make XR products accessible? 01:06:33 What should people do to make the digital world more accessible? 01:08:23 Closing out the show - Thanks, Reginé! ====== Liked what you saw and want to see more? Subscribe to the channel: 🔔 https://bit.ly/311OgpS You can also subscribe and listen to the audio version on: 🎧 Apple Podcasts - https://apple.co/3rzixVc 🎧 Spotify - https://spoti.fi/3q47pPA 🎧 iHeart Radio - https://ihr.fm/2MLLQoG 🎧 Google Podcasts - https://bit.ly/2LCXXUn 🎧 TuneIn + Alexa - https://bit.ly/3jAVkz7 🎧 Stitcher - https://bit.ly/3ezPSw0 Follow us on our other social channels for more great UX research, product design, and product management tips, interviews and insights! 🤝 LinkedIn: https://bit.ly/3zvHzLI 📷 Instagram: https://bit.ly/3zvTzwy ====== Hosted by Brendan Jarvis: LinkedIn: / brendanjarvis Website: https://thespaceinbetween.co.nz/ Twitter: / brendanjarvis