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The Inner Game of Success with Brad Stulberg

The Learning Leader Show with Ryan Hawk www.LearningLeader.com Bestselling author Brad Stulberg reveals why chasing more often leads to less — and how redefining success, identity, and growth is the key to sustainable fulfillment. 00:00 – Why So Many High Achievers Quietly Feel Unfulfilled 03:18 – The Trap of Chasing Someone Else’s Definition of Success 06:02 – Identity Over Outcomes: What Actually Drives Behavior 09:47 – Why Ambition Needs Constraints to Be Healthy 13:05 – The Difference Between Wanting More and Wanting Meaning 16:42 – How Community Shapes Who You Become 20:11 – The Hidden Cost of Constant Optimization 24:36 – Redefining Growth Beyond Metrics and Vanity Wins 29:14 – Why Sustainable Excellence Requires Letting Go 34:22 – The Role of Stillness, Reflection, and Space 39:18 – How to Measure a Life Well Lived 45:06 – Playing the Long Game Without Losing Yourself Guest: Brad Stulberg is a bestselling author and leading voice on sustainable growth, identity, and the inner game of success. He is the co-author of Peak Performance and The Passion Paradox, and the author of Master of Change, which explores how individuals can thrive amid constant uncertainty. Known for blending psychology, philosophy, and lived experience, Brad challenges conventional ideas about ambition and achievement, helping people pursue excellence without sacrificing meaning, health, or long-term fulfillment. In this episode, Brad Stulberg explores why so many driven, high-achieving people feel unfulfilled even after “doing everything right.” He breaks down how identity shapes ambition, why constant optimization can quietly erode meaning, and how redefining success is essential for long-term growth. Brad discusses the role of community, reflection, and constraint in building a life that feels whole — not just impressive on paper. This conversation is a thoughtful guide for anyone trying to play the long game without losing themselves along the way. Sign up for my free weekly newsletter "Mindful Monday" read by tens of thousands of leaders pursuing excellence here: https://ryanhawk.kit.com/profile/posts MY ONLINE SCHOOL: The Learning Leader Academy: https://learningleader.com/academy/ The Difference Between Top Performers & Everybody Else: https://learningleader.com/kipchoge/ WHO AM I? I’m Ryan Hawk, a writer, podcaster, advisor, and teacher. My favorite thing to do is have a deep, long-form conversation with a thoughtful person. Fortunately, I get to do that often on my podcast, The Learning Leader Show. I created The Learning Leader Show in 2015 as a way to follow my curiosity about leadership and excellence with great rigor. It has since been listened to by millions of people in more than 150 countries.