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To listen to more of Jonas Mekas’s stories, go to the playlist: • Jonas Mekas (Film-maker) Jonas Mekas (1922-2019), Lithuanian-born poet, philosopher and film-maker, has made hundreds of films and set up the Anthology Film Archive. He emigrated to American in 1949 where he earned the title of 'the godfather of American avant-garde cinema'. [Listener: Amy Taubin; date recorded: 2003] TRANSCRIPT: My first meeting with Maya Deren was like in '53 when I was looking for her book anagram on, an anagram, I know the exact title, an anagram, It's got cinema in it, right. It has got cinema, it has got cinema, and I could not find it anywhere, so I called collected you know, my strength, and I called her and she said, 'I will lend you one, I have one, if you want to read'. So, there I come, I'm walking on Morton Street, walking up and there up, there on the 4th floor somewhere stands Maya Deren. And I walk up and look and look and she's looking at me in a very, very strange way. So, I look at her because it was strange. Then she said,'Forgive me, it's very strange, I'm almost shocked because I thought it was not you, it was Sasha'. And Sasha, she meant Sasha – Alexander... Hammond, her husband that, they were not living, they were already divorced. And because, then she said, 'You are exactly where I met Sasha for the first time, you looked the exact same way', that, so, in the end, that's how I met Maya.