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Author and activist Jacob Tobia joins Dr. Amelia Kelley for a deep and honest conversation about masculinity, patriarchy, and the ways both men and women are shaped by the systems they live in. Together they explore why most men are not beneficiaries of patriarchy but co-survivors of it, how emotional repression harms everyone, and why the term “toxic masculinity” may be keeping us stuck instead of helping us heal. This episode challenges cultural myths, highlights the loneliness crisis among men, and invites listeners to see gender as a choice instead of a cage. Whether you identify as male, female, or non-binary, this conversation will expand your understanding of empathy, equality, and freedom. Timestamps: 00:00 Introduction 01:30 Why Jacob chose honesty over performance 04:50 The real reason the book matters right now 07:00 Men as co-survivors of patriarchy 10:20 How patriarchy harms emotional expression 13:00 The myth of “toxic masculinity” and why it fails us 17:40 Masculinity should be opt-in, not forced 22:00 The loneliness crisis among men 28:00 How culture and gender conditioning feed disconnection 35:00 Patriarchy, power, and the value of gender 45:00 What women can do to support men’s healing 50:30 The “trad wife” movement explained 55:30 How freedom means choosing your identity 58:00 Jacob’s message to both movements 01:02:00 Closing reflections and how to connect with Jacob Connect with Dr. Amelia Kelley: 🌍 Website: https://www.ameliakelley.com 📸 Instagram: / drameliakelley 👩🏼💼 LinkedIn: / drameliakelley